1) No effort required there.
2) Perhaps you can inspire by example. "There are elements to this SLI that you fail to understand or truthfully don't even know exists." Response = Like what?...And your response was/is....? 🙂
August 2013 Pilot Discussion
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1) No effort required there.
2) Perhaps you can inspire by example. "There are elements to this SLI that you fail to understand or truthfully don't even know exists." Response = Like what?...And your response was/is....? 🙂
What will the 3 others be in Jan.?
1 Dublin. Manchester, sometimes.
LHR is 777 out of JFK and goes back and forth 2-3 man. Time of day (delays at JFK) affects that too.
Manchester bounces back and forth between 2 and 3 man seasonally due to winds.
And how many MD-80s. 757s and 767s does AA have? Keep going, you're doing great.
You know if you could take your Nic blinders off and keep up it would help.
I didn't bring up orders, AAhole did. My point is that those go both ways.
US had more aircraft on order than AWA, that's why Nicolau didn't give you credit for them. Need a page reference or you think you can find it on your own?
Situations ethics indeed, on the west side.
Where did it come from?
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CLT update
LOA 84/93 annual May 1st 3% pay raisesArbitrator Richard Kasher was given written notice several months ago regarding his intentions related to the annual 3% pay raise grievance before him. He responded via a voicemail on Sunday, May 26, asking for all the documentation regarding our position on this grievance. A complete packet was mailed to him the following week, and Grievance Chairman Dave Ciabattoni stated at the last BPR meeting that we are giving Arbitrator Kasher another “1 or 2” weeks before we press the issue into a federal court house.
Dave further briefed the BPR that we are looking for 1 of 4 results in the following order of preference:
“Reverse” his draft decision and award the pilots the contractual 3% annual May 1 pay increases due since May 2010.
“Relinquish” jurisdiction so that we can restrike another arbitrator
“Reopen” the record to allow the opportunity to further investigate the case.
“Force” a decision that would follow his draft decision and then appeal to Federal Court.
Once again we find ourselves waiting for an Arbitrator’s decision 3 full years beyond the closing date of the original record. Patience is thin on this issue and we are pressing all buttons to move this process forward in order to get a final result.
Here you have it. Yet again east pilots trying to go back on arbitration. The arbitrator said no 3% but usapa is fighting the answer. Looking for a redo. If they can't get an arbitrator to agree they think they can get a court to agree. Final and binding never means final and binding to an east pilot unless they get the answer they want.
The reason the east pilots don't like arbitration is because they don't know how to do arbitration.
LOA 84/93 annual May 1st 3% pay raisesArbitrator Richard Kasher was given written notice several months ago regarding his intentions related to the annual 3% pay raise grievance before him. He responded via a voicemail on Sunday, May 26, asking for all the documentation regarding our position on this grievance. A complete packet was mailed to him the following week, and Grievance Chairman Dave Ciabattoni stated at the last BPR meeting that we are giving Arbitrator Kasher another “1 or 2” weeks before we press the issue into a federal court house.
Dave further briefed the BPR that we are looking for 1 of 4 results in the following order of preference:
“Reverse” his draft decision and award the pilots the contractual 3% annual May 1 pay increases due since May 2010.
“Relinquish” jurisdiction so that we can restrike another arbitrator
“Reopen” the record to allow the opportunity to further investigate the case.
“Force” a decision that would follow his draft decision and then appeal to Federal Court.
Once again we find ourselves waiting for an Arbitrator’s decision 3 full years beyond the closing date of the original record. Patience is thin on this issue and we are pressing all buttons to move this process forward in order to get a final result.
Here you have it. Yet again east pilots trying to go back on arbitration. The arbitrator said no 3% but usapa is fighting the answer. Looking for a redo. If they can't get an arbitrator to agree they think they can get a court to agree. Final and binding never means final and binding to an east pilot unless they get the answer they want.
The reason the east pilots don't like arbitration is because they don't know how to do arbitration.
It was directed to CaptChill..
You know, the guy that thinks I'm a westie.. There are clearly things beyond his grasp.
Try to keep up.
Your posting style does directly mimic that of a particular west person.
"It was directed to CaptChill..", but held only a quote from a post of mine? OK. "Try to keep up."...? Pick up your pace then, and make it easier for others not to trip over you. 🙂
Well, we've got about 190 md 80's on the property. A lot of those a slightly underutilized, and quite a few are parked. Supp CC, the TWA arbitration is driving some of that utilization lower (I think). There are just over 100 757's here. A sub fleet will remain indefinitely of between 20-40 aircraft for NATL, and hit city ops. That number hasn't been decided. 767's? There's 15 -200's that will be replaced with A321's starting this fall. We have 58 -300's. half of which are going through a cabin mod and will be around a ling time. So, whats that, just north of 315 going away?
Here's the 460 narrowbody order:
http://hub.aa.com/en...eet-transaction
Plus:
We've taken delivery of 7-8 777'300's since the BK filing. Those are the start of a firm 20 A/C order.
Then there's the 42 787's We're taking some late next year, -800's I'm hearing through the grape vine.
You do the math.....
"You really think I'm a AWA pilot?" No. I don't. Refresh your memory of, or simply look up the definition of Mimic.
"You're a bright one." Sigh! Unfortunately...I'm unable to return that salute. 🙂
Not from "YOU"!
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An even briefer history lesson: The reason we didn't finish a JCBA is because the AAA MEC ordered its negotiation team away from joint talks.
The reason the east had been on LOA 93 wages? Same reason. The reason they have given up hundreds of thousands of dollars personally? Same reason. The reason the company benefitted all this time (to an estimated 1/2 to 3/4 B. dollars)? Same reason.
Lesson is now concluded.
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