Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

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UAL Pilots update December 27, 2012

ec. 27, 2012​

[font="Verdana""]THE UNITED PILOT AGREEMENT: IMPLEMENTATION AND THE TPA[/font]​

[font="Verdana""]With ratification of the United Pilot Agreement (UPA) complete, the Joint Implementation Team (JIT) will now begin implementing the new agreement. The two important documents which will govern the process are LOA 26 and the Transition Process Agreement (TPA). The guiding principle in the integration timeline is reciprocity; as it was noted during the Town Hall meetings, “The Company doesn’t get any of their good stuff until we get our good stuff.” For example, the Company does not get movable RDOs for Basic sUAL Reserve pilots until they implement the increased monthly pay guarantee (MPG) of 73 hours. [/font]
[font="Verdana""]LOA 26 has details on over 100 contract provisions and their estimated implementation dates. The TPA contains the Seniority List Integration (SLI) protocol, and a requirement, unless otherwise agreed, that Continental and United keep their flight operations separate until the Operational Merger Date (OMD). The OMD will be the first day following acceptance of the Integrated Seniority List (ISL). The protocol in Exhibit B of the TPA will govern the ISL process, and the MEC Merger Committees will detail the steps remaining to obtain the ISL in a subsequent MEC update. This update will focus on LOA 26 and the implementation schedule.[/font]
[font="Verdana""]Implementation LOA 26:[/font]
[font="Verdana""]A contract of this complexity and magnitude of change cannot be implemented overnight and the time needed to implement the United Pilot Agreement (UPA) was accounted for during the JCBA negotiations and included in the costing trade-offs. It will take time to complete the migration of UNIMATIC to the CAL Crew Management System (CMS), and harmonize all the scheduling rules including PBS, trip trade, and vacation bidding. The UPA will also require significant training of crew desk schedulers, and most importantly, it will require more pilots due to the higher manpower requirements being driven by the new work rules which will ultimately speed up the return of our furloughed brothers and sisters to United.
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[font="Verdana""]LOA 26 dictates the composition of the Joint Implementation Team (JNC members from the Company and ALPA who comprised the Scheduling Small Group), lays out specific expedited arbitration procedures if there are disputes, and lays out the implementation timeline. To handle questions and issues that arise, the JIT has established an email address at JIT@ALPA.ORG for your use.[/font]

[font="Verdana""]The Joint Implementation Team (JIT) will manage the timeline as detailed in paragraph D of LOA 26. Some provisions of the UPA apply retroactive to the beginning of the current bid month (including pay rates and B fund contribution), some provisions will take effect on the effective date of the UPA (Dec 30 for sUAL, Jan 1 for sCAL due to the difference in our bid periods), and some will be phased-in according to the chart in LOA 26. [/font]

[font="Verdana""]The chart in paragraph D has 111 items which have been identified as having a planned implementation date. Most of these items are tied to the integration of the Crew Management System (CMS) which is the sCAL version of sUAL’s UNIMATIC. Because it will be difficult to “flip a switch” and turn all UNIMATIC functions over to CMS at once, we expect a step-by-step roll out throughout the summer and fall of 2013. At the cutover point to CMS, the Company plans to implement FAR Part 117. Pilots should take time to become familiar with the new FAR, as this is only nine (9) months away.[/font]

[font="Verdana""]With respect to the LOA 26 items which need to be phased-in, until a provision is implemented pilots will continue operating under the provisions of their previous CBA unless otherwise agreed. The important milestones in the initial implementation are explained below; for the full list of delayed items see LOA 26 or the “Expanded Implementation Schedule” which is a plain-language version of the chart in paragraph D of the LOA. The JNC and JIT will provide periodic updates and strategic reminders regarding the implementation progress and we will highlight the important changes expected for the coming weeks and months for your planning purposes. [/font]

[font="Verdana""]A short list of some key items and their implementation dates is below; however this is not the complete list covering every section of the contract. For a more complete list of active items and those being implemented for the January bid period please see the JIT Update. All questions should be sent to JIT@ALPA.ORG. If any conflicts occur between this document or the JIT Update(s) and the UPA, the UPA is the controlling document.[/font]
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[font="Verdana""]Key Items in effect retroactively since the first day of the December Bid Period (Nov 30 for s-UAL, Dec 1 for s-CAL) See the JIT Update for a more complete list:[/font]
[font="Verdana""]New Pay rates[/font][font="Verdana""]-note: blended rates will be used for all flying for 767 (approx. $194 Cap/$132 FO) and Airbus (approx. $186/$127) at sUAL until CMS regardless of the actual type flown each leg. These blended rates are re-calculated each month based on current fleet mix.[/font]
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[font="Verdana""]United Furloughees flying at CAL-[/font][font="Verdana""] new pay rates with longevity credit for pay for Dec; expect increase from the 1st year advance of $750 on Jan 1 (worst case Feb 1 if programming not complete)[/font]
[font="Verdana""]B Fund[/font][font="Verdana""]-16% of new pay rates[/font]
[font="Verdana""]New Per Diem rates[/font][font="Verdana""]-$2.10 continental US and Canada, $2.55 elsewhere; both increase 5 cents Jan 2013.[/font]
[font="Verdana""]International pay override[/font][font="Verdana""]-$6.50 Cap/$4.50 FO if [/font][font="Verdana""]outside of the contiguous US, Alaska, or Canada[/font]
[font="Verdana""]Premium pay for deadheading in center seats[/font][font="Verdana""]-sUAL, send a Unimatic enote to the Pay Desk (Last name: PAYDESK, Company Address: OPBCM) with your PNR and a narrative describing how you wound up in a middle seat; keep good records including your boarding pass showing your seat in case there are any questions. [/font][font="Verdana""]sCaL should continue their current procedure.[/font]
[font="Verdana""]New Vacation Accrual Schedule-[/font][font="Verdana""]new accrual schedule (number of Vacation days), used for the January 2013 bid sUAL. Please be sure to check the number of vacation day you are allocating for this next bid. [/font]
[font="Verdana""]Guam override[/font][font="Verdana""]-$3,000/month for Guam based pilots[/font]
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[font="Verdana""]Key LOA 26 “Effective Date” items beginning the first day of Jan bid month (i.e., Dec 30 for s-UAL, Jan 1 for s-CAL). See the JIT Update for a more complete list:[/font]
[font="Verdana""]PTC protection (current book UAL, new at sCAL)[/font][font="Verdana""]-protects line value for month once PBS schedule built[/font]
[font="Verdana""]sCAL trip pay protection at PBS award[/font][font="Verdana""]-CMS will take trip protection snapshot when awarded monthly line in PBS, interim fix until harmonized PBS implemented, keep good records[/font]
[font="Verdana""]Leg-by-leg “overs” (current book will not change at sCAL, interim fix for sUAL)[/font][font="Verdana""]-Beginning with trips that start in the January Bid Month, pilots will be paid the greater of scheduled or actual on a leg basis, rather than on today’s trip basis. Until permanent programming is complete, for s-UAL this additional pay will appear as a separate line item on a pilot’s paycheck, with the label, “Leg Overs.” In addition, a summary report will be published on Flying Together. This is a manual process until programing complete, keep good records.[/font]
[font="Verdana""]100% premium for Senior/Junior man –[/font][font="Verdana""]will likely become effective in Dec, company will announce to all Lineholders by bulletin [/font]
[font="Verdana""]sCAL IJM[/font][font="Verdana""] (IJM not implemented at sUAL yet)-company must advertise for volunteers for trips open 6 hours or more prior to report[/font]
[font="Verdana""]sUAL Vacation bidding-[/font][font="Verdana""]The January 2013 vacation bid will be done using current sUAL book, however the number of days for the 2013-2014 vacation is being adjusted for the new UPA accrual schedule for December 2012-April 2013. Vacation does not accrue by calendar year; it accrues by Vacation year from May-April, and the new accrual schedule went into effect November 30 at sUAL. This may change the number of vacation days by one or two, depending on years of service.[/font]
[font="Verdana""]Deadhead Deviations-[/font][font="Verdana""] Pilot can transfer PS travel authorization from scheduled deadhead to the deviation city pair. For sCAL, pilots should book a PS leg home and crew desk will authorize, process for approval TBD. sUAL- notify CM of your intent to deviate and scheduler will remark deviation in the audit trail, no change to current PS seats for deviations. To preserve rights to deviate, there is a 15 hour notice requirement, and a requirement to check at the end of the ID to see if you were reassigned. If RA, deviation cancelled. See UPA Section 5-D for deviation rules and prescribed time. Basic Flight means a Flight that operates within the fifty (50) United States, Canada, Mexico, Central America, that portion of South America which is north of fifteen (15) degrees south latitude, Bermuda, and the Caribbean Islands. Global=anything that is not Basic.[/font]
[font="Verdana""]sUAL MPG increase for unused short calls (3-C-1-b-(1)-(a) and (B))[/font][font="Verdana""]-replaces credit for FSB[/font]
[font="Verdana""]Reserve day off restoration-[/font][font="Verdana""]Section 5-F-5: If a RSV is delayed and arrives after 0045 on a day off, must call CM and elect to keep that day as a RSV day to get day off restored (current practice at sUAL, new for sCAL)[/font]
[font="Verdana""]Company Reimbursement of Inflight Entertainment and Internet Fees (4-H-5)-[/font][font="Verdana""]on any Deadhead, Company Business, or travel to/from training the Company will reimburse pilots for these expenses.[/font]

[font="Verdana""]Other near-term notable LOA 26 upcoming items:[/font]
[font="Verdana""]Feb Bid Period-[/font][font="Verdana""] new Vacation trip drop rules (drops pay calculated 1 for 1 in hours not days)[/font]
[font="Verdana""]Mar Bid Period- [/font][font="Verdana""]M5D- 5 hours pay per day; note that does not apply to credit until Sep, requires manual procedure and will be “post-processed” at the end of the month[/font]
[font="Verdana""]Mar Bid Period-[/font][font="Verdana""]Vacation pay 3.25 per day, note that credit time in building PBS not effective until Aug[/font]
[font="Verdana""]Mar Bid Period-[/font][font="Verdana""]Training Pay and Credit: 3.75 hours pay for short training/PC; 3.0 hours pay long training[/font]
[font="Verdana""]Mar Bid Period-[/font][font="Verdana""]Verify ID 36-15 hours prior to departure (5-E-2-a) unless instantaneous pick-up or if assigned by direct contact with crew desk[/font]

 

[traderjake]

The real question is: Does the USAPA merger committee have any flexibility on DOH? If not, then they can simply attend the mediation phase by fax and save us their hotel and meal expenses.

The real question is how will an arbitration panel rule and the overwhelming probability is that they will rule fundamentally the same as the previous four arbitrations.

 

[Claxon]

We shall see who is right.

Four seniority arbitrations in a row say I am.

Speaking of arbitration's, ask your daddy who was a former Piedmont pilot if he still has the stapler he used in the Empire merger. Papa was a rolling stone.

SENIORITY:
Seniority s h a l l continue t o be governed by the provisions of Section 19 of the
Basic Agreement except as follows:
A. Former Enpire p i l o t s shall be placed on the Piedmont Pilot System
Seniority List on January 3, 1986 following the most junior Piedmont
p i l o t i n the same order that they appear on the Empire Pilot Seniority
List dated January 15, 1986.

 

[Claxon]

Second generation hypocrite you are trader. Staple job in the Empire merger your daddy did helped him afford your lifestyle you have today. You are the expert on merger explanations as long as your blood line profits.

 

[EastUS1]

And how do you know that they don't think Nicolau had his head up his ass?

Indeed, as the test of reality over years now would certainly indicate...No disrespect to the man himself, and certainly not to his service to our Nation with the Mighty 8th....but we all, all of us humans...well...do simply "f" up at times.

 

[Phoenix]

Indeed, as the test of reality over years now would certainly indicate...No disrespect to the man himself, and certainly not to his service to our Nation with the Mighty 8th....but we all, all of us humans...well...do simply "f" up at times.

Nic had it EXACTLY right because ANY movement at all off the Nic is DANGEROUS GROUND.. imagine if we mixed West pilots into the 517, that would be dangerous.

 

[cleardirect]

Ok, Clear,

Now take all of your spin and factor in a 7 year fence with the amount of attrition taking place during that 7 years. Paints a different picture, eh?

breeze

Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha. Man that cracked me up. Do you honestly think that there is going to be a 7 years solid fence and separate ops? More delusion.

The only fence is going to be around the american WB. Besides the american pilots are going to laugh at your tiny attrition. Take a look at what they have.

The only different picture you are going to see is the west finally getting our fair share of this merger. Enjoy your stagnation.

You did ignore the facts I posted. No amount of dreaming will change the fact that you are not going to get DOH with the west or with american.

 

[cleardirect]

Well..."DUH!" trader. My only question for you is: Why aren't you on the APA site, telling them all how truly special the west/AWA is, and why they should be given preferential treatment over your coworkers of many years? 🙂

Don't have to tell the APA. Nicolau already did that.

 

[cleardirect]

Bovine Fecal Matter.

You don't believe Roland Wilder?

Ask him about arbitrators balancing seniority lists and contract differences.

 

[cleardirect]

Doesn't matter. If the arbitrators are presented with three lists, that's what they work from.

And how do you know that they don't think Nicolau had his head up his ass? Is every Supreme Court decision unanimous?

Better check with your lawyers about your incorrect theory.

 

[Claxon]

Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha. Man that cracked me up. Do you honestly think that there is going to be a 7 years solid fence and separate ops? More delusion.

The only fence is going to be around the american WB. Besides the american pilots are going to laugh at your tiny attrition. Take a look at what they have.

The only different picture you are going to see is the west finally getting our fair share of this merger. Enjoy your stagnation.

You did ignore the facts I posted. No amount of dreaming will change the fact that you are not going to get DOH with the west or with american.

2005

AWA MEC and NC's

First Officer Jones was a valued resource and asset in providing me with information until last fall when he cut off our 16-month correspondence, which consisted of over 30 hours of long distance phone calls and over 120 emails.

U-Turn however does not “see it as First Officer Jones calls it.” He is entitled to his own
interpretation of “U-Turn and the China LOA.” We disagree. “A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest” (Simon and Garfunkel, “The Boxer,” 1970).
U-Turn cannot emphasize enough that we were not addressing the East MEC in “China-Gate.”

Our criticism was directed squarely at our OWN AWA MEC for both a lack of communication with our pilot group and for our suspicions founded by their previous behind-the-scenes dealings with the company. For Eastern Szmal to suggest otherwise is a misread of that U-Turn article. But right now, he needs a straw man to deflect from his own self-generated problems.

We still have concerns that our own MEC was engaged in discussions that had “nothing to do with current JNC negotiations.” And until our MEC starts practicing the slogan they ran on, “openness, honesty and integrity,” we will call them on their own reticence, caginess and lack of candor.

From high atop the McDowell Mountains in Mesa, Arizona, this is Herb Holland, for U-Turn.

 

[EastUS1]

Don't have to tell the APA. Nicolau already did that.

Sigh!...OK...Here's your ration of milk and cookies clear. Lullabies cost extra. Sleep well and have sweet dreams of the nic...and you certainly didn't disappoint with your easilly predictable failure to answer or even respond to Breeze's question. Keep the pom poms furiously flashing. Light up a candle to St. Nic, and have a fine night out there in Fantasyland youngster. 🙂

Umm...PS: Do you, by any happy chance, play poker? 🙂

 

[Claxon]

Better check with your lawyers about your incorrect theory.

You should practice what you preach. You west pilots are strange.

http://www.planebusiness.com/buzz/awausapa.pdf

 

[cleardirect]

2005

AWA MEC and NC's

First Officer Jones was a valued resource and asset in providing me with information until last fall when he cut off our 16-month correspondence, which consisted of over 30 hours of long distance phone calls and over 120 emails.

U-Turn however does not “see it as First Officer Jones calls it.” He is entitled to his own
interpretation of “U-Turn and the China LOA.” We disagree. “A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest” (Simon and Garfunkel, “The Boxer,” 1970).
U-Turn cannot emphasize enough that we were not addressing the East MEC in “China-Gate.”

Our criticism was directed squarely at our OWN AWA MEC for both a lack of communication with our pilot group and for our suspicions founded by their previous behind-the-scenes dealings with the company. For Eastern Szmal to suggest otherwise is a misread of that U-Turn article. But right now, he needs a straw man to deflect from his own self-generated problems.

We still have concerns that our own MEC was engaged in discussions that had “nothing to do with current JNC negotiations.” And until our MEC starts practicing the slogan they ran on, “openness, honesty and integrity,” we will call them on their own reticence, caginess and lack of candor.

From high atop the McDowell Mountains in Mesa, Arizona, this is Herb Holland, for U-Turn.

Really. That is the best you can do. Some old rant. Every airline has a Herb Holland. You have CM we had Herb but he has retired several years ago.

Now how about addressing the fact that DOH puts 85% of the east pilots in the top 50% of a combined list. That DOH staples 6600 american pilots on the bottom with only 500 east pilots. No way the american boys are going to stand for that. EVER!

 

[EastUS1]

You west pilots are strange.

Well...if not downright "strange"...at least certainly unlike anything I'd previously ever encountered over many decades. 😉 They do have some decent and actually intelligent people amongst their ranks though...although we rarely see any such post here.

Have a fine evening All. 🙂