Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Black Swan]

I wouldn't expect DUI to put that in a first offer.

Nor would Hummel be expected to do anything decent for us.

 

[Phoenix]

No doubt. 😉 If it's to be fearfully assumed that no leverage, nor tactical opportunity of any sort now exists; I'd earnestly ask of all just what conditions would ever prove more favorable in the future...and when that fantasized, magically wonderful "future" would ever occur? Team tempe wants this badly. That much is very certain.

Agreed. If not now, when? If not us, who?

 

[Beancounter]

Or you could just do your regular rollover and take anything that comes along, right.

Because acting tough and refusing to negotiate has worked so well for you guys in the past, right.

Bean

 

[pilot]

It'll pass no matter what is in it. IMO.

Let my daddy vote!

 

[pilot]

Because acting tough and refusing to negotiate has worked so well for you guys in the past, right.

Bean

Saved our seniority didn't it?
I can tel, you that is a big deal now this merger is on.

 

[luvthe9]

Saved our seniority didn't it?
I can tel, you that is a big deal now this merger is on.

Former ALPO puke will never admit that.

 

[luvthe9]

It'll pass no matter what is in it. IMO.

Let my daddy vote!

My kid is saying daddy don't sign it, 10 grand that's nowhere near enough to make up for the last few yrs.

 

[luvthe9]

Fellow Pilots,

As you know, your union has been involved in discussions, unlike any our industry has experienced, regarding the potential merger between American Airlines and US Airways. These negotiations have included USAPA, the Allied Pilots Association, American Airlines, American Airlines’ Unsecured Creditors Committee (UCC) and US Airways management. Over the holidays, much work went into achieving a newly proposed Memorandum of Understanding (MOU).

Today, your Board of Pilot Representatives voted unanimously to recommend the proposed MOU to you, the pilots of USAPA, for your review and ratification. If all parties agree to the terms of the MOU, it would serve as a framework for an agreement if American Airlines and US Airways merge. If not approved by the other parties to the MOU, or if there is no merger between the two carriers, the MOU would be rendered null and void. If the other parties approve the MOU, but the USAPA pilots do not ratify it, the MOU will apply to the other parties, but not to us.

We realize that you are understandably interested in the details and specifics of the MOU. Due to the Non-Disclosure Agreement and applicable Securities and Exchange laws, we cannot disclose the terms of the MOU at this time. We are in discussions with the other parties to the MOU and the Unsecured Creditors Committee about the timetable for their review, and when we would be permitted to disclose the MOU to you. However, we can assure you three things:

First, the MOU will not be final with regard to you until you, the pilots of USAPA, vote to approve it.

Second, you will have access to complete and detailed information on the MOU before you are asked to vote. Depending on when the other parties complete their approval processes, the NAC will visit all crew bases by the end of January, and you will be able to hear first-hand from the NAC and ask any questions you have.

Third, if this merger transpires, we believe this MOU is the quickest and surest path to a better lifestyle for us all.

This is an important moment in your union’s history. This agreement is the result of the work of your BPR, Officers, NAC and our professional negotiating team. In particular, we would like to thank our NAC, including Chairman Dean Colello and Members Rocky Calveri, Ken Holmes, and John Owens for their tireless efforts in representing you and the pilots of this airline.

Thank you for your patience and support throughout this process.


Regards,

Your Officers and Board of Pilot Representatives

Gary Hummel - President Steve Bradford - Vice President
Rob Streble - Secretary-Treasurer Steve Smyser - Executive Vice President
Bill McKee - CLT Chairman Steve Crimi - CLT Vice Chairman
DeWitt Ingram - CLT Vice Chairman Joe Stein - DCA Chairman
Pete Dugstad - DCA Vice Chairman Steve "Spike" Szpyrka - PHL Chairman
Mike Gillies - PHL Vice Chairman Jamie Weidner - PHL Vice Chairman
John Scherff - PHX Chairman Dave Simmons - PHX Vice Chairman
Roger Velez - PHX Vice Chairman

 

[Beancounter]

Saved our seniority didn't it?
I can tel, you that is a big deal now this merger is on.

If staying separate and on LOA 93 until your retirement is your idea of saving seniority, then yes, I guess it did. The only thing for sure is that you've lost a lot of money and put all US pilots in a bad position for this merger.

Bean

 

[Phoenix]

My kid is saying daddy don't sign it, 10 grand that's nowhere near enough to make up for the last few yrs.

10K? Forget about the past. Think about the future $100K each APA pilot gets.

 

[westcoastflyer]

USAPA just came out with an Update; of course all the details of the MOU are still super-secret. Does anyone have any credible knowledge whether this MOU addresses or attempts to solve the seniority "situation?"

 

[luvthe9]

LCC stock 14.73 up 1.07, 52 week high

 

[traderjake]

I strongly concur with above and have written all NAC / phl BPR / merger com / SB & least of all trusted GH.

If your DCA based, please do whatever it takes to bring these 2 BPR traitors back to reality.

Please take the time to write these folks unless your the pink panty Dan E kinda guy.

Thanks for the advice FA, I wrote my Reps and they listened.

There will be a MOU vote.

 

[luvthe9]

USAPA just came out with an Update; of course all the details of the MOU are still super-secret. Does anyone have any credible knowledge whether this MOU addresses or attempts to solve the seniority "situation?"

No, but I'm pretty sure the NIC is a thing of past, east reps would not have voted for it otherwise, we won't be the lowest paid anymore I hope but we will see shortly.

 

[luvthe9]

Thanks for the advice FA, I wrote my Reps and they listened.

There will be a MOU vote.

And I'm sure your a no vote Danny boy since the NIC won't be part of this, right?