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Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

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A pity that you folks hadn't even the time of day to offer to any considerations of LOS, which, imo, should've certainly been done. I don't agree with putting anyone who's worked more beneath one who's worked less...period!

Ames: "So, fcuk yourself, asswipe." I'd have been a bit "dissappointed" to have ever received such brilliant correspondence from a junior officer at any time...but, given that you failed med school admissions and couldn't do any better as a "pilot" (or perhaps personality shone through during interviews) than AWA, I'll consider the source.

Dismissed.

The west merger committee did offer considerations for LOS which were met with fists pounding the table and a DOH declaration.

Even though you claim to disagree with putting someone who has worked more behind one who has worked less you are a stainch ucrapa/DOH supporter and my example of the unfairness of that goes right past you.

It doesn't surprise me that you take such glee in the fact that I could not get into medical school. You are one of those rare people who elevates himself celebrating others' failures.

It cracks me up that you think I haven't done better as a pilot. One can only assume you think I am a failure as a pilot because I chose a job at AWA.

....And you wonder why I think you are an asswipe? You are an asswipe extroadinaire.
 
This "asswipe" has a different perspective than yours. Build a bridge and get over it.....not.

Well, at least you admit that you're an asswipe. Glad you appreciate my honest answer to your scab question. You do know what you are.
 
One can only assume you think I am a failure as a pilot because I chose a job at AWA.

Nope. I don't assume incompetence there via F4 heritage. I added the idea that your charming personality might have cost you at other interviews. 😉 If your every-other utterance is of the quality and likes of "asswipe"...well...you do the math. 🙂

Ames: "Even though you claim to disagree with putting someone who has worked more behind one who has worked less you are a stainch ucrapa/DOH supporter and my example of the unfairness of that goes right past you." It doesn't at all go right past me. IF you actually read and understood previous postings; I've noted that I feel it wrong to place anyone who's worked more under anyone who's done less....period. Try re-reading that last again and repeat as needed until it sinks in.

It's a pity your bunch wasn't the least bit interested in respecting length of service....or respecting others in ANY way, shape or form for that matter.....they were too busy with their taunting "Booyooshaka!".."It's OVER..Get used to it!"..."We saved you!" and such infantile BS to EVER actually consider, well THINKING at ALL!...and here we all are. 😉

Ames: "It doesn't surprise me that you take such glee in the fact that I could not get into medical school." My referencing that at all was on the wrong side of "high smellin' and low down" behavior, for which I do apologize. You may now return to offering up your standard barrage of finely crafted endearments.
 
Bon Voyage Captain Moore. Despite all that has gone on, I can respect 39 years of service, including 5 years as the last pilot on the list(if I remember correctly.) You earned it. Best wishes.
 
The west merger committee did offer considerations for LOS which were met with fists pounding the table and a DOH declaration.

Even though you claim to disagree with putting someone who has worked more behind one who has worked less you are a stainch ucrapa/DOH supporter and my example of the unfairness of that goes right past you.

It doesn't surprise me that you take such glee in the fact that I could not get into medical school. You are one of those rare people who elevates himself celebrating others' failures.

It cracks me up that you think I haven't done better as a pilot. One can only assume you think I am a failure as a pilot because I chose a job at AWA.

....And you wonder why I think you are an asswipe? You are an asswipe extroadinaire.

Talking to someone you trust that is not in the Airline business, would be helpful for you. You sound stressed, there are other priorities in your life besides your job.

Your coworkers, I am sure, should and will agree with this.
 
Talking to someone you trust that is not in the Airline business, would be helpful for you. You sound stressed, there are other priorities in your life besides your job.

Your coworkers, I am sure, should and will agree with this.

Some folks need to let out a little steam. Maybe AOL could spring the cash for an all expenses paid vacation to attend a CLT crew news session... hotel, meals, rental car, panthers tickets, and of course a loaner yellow rain coat. PS. If you are unable to laugh while wearing a yellow raincoat, you should receive priority.
 
Here's the difference (as though you have to be schooled...again). My captain upgrade (and those upgrades that belong to any AWA pilot) were done by acquisition and merging of the companies. Thence via an agreed upon process to its conclusion.

The upgrades you boys are crowing about are based on deception, lying, thievery, manipulation & good old skullduggery.

The interesting thing is the APA, UAL, CAL, SWA, DAL, and everyone else in the commercial aviation community knows it, and you don't care. Your families know it and you don't care. Your friends know it, and you don't care. Most importantly the Creator knows it, and you don't care.

USAPA's actions (both direct & indirect) against the AWA pilot group will go down in the commercial aviation history books as one of the most vile and disgusting acts against fellow aviators.

BTW, I'm not crying a Wye River because all you had to offer there was.....wait for it .......wait for it......DATE OF HIRE (big stinkin' surprise). Justice will be served, sooner or later.

Hey here's an idea: Keep crowing about your wins. It is one of the many things that we can count upon from you.


ROFLMFAO!!!! Sorry.........I don't think I've posted for over a year on this board but could'nt pass this one up. Sour grapes anyone???
 
ROFLMFAO!!!! Sorry.........I don't think I've posted for over a year on this board but could'nt pass this one up. Sour grapes anyone???
Shhh! Just finished that chapter, its title is" THE UPGRADE PROCESS-DECEPTION, LIEING, STEALING,MANIPULATION and SKULL DUGGERY, Your ticket to riches in your airline career"
 
Talking to someone you trust that is not in the Airline business, would be helpful for you. You sound stressed, there are other priorities in your life besides your job.

Your coworkers, I am sure, should and will agree with this.

I'm not stressed. I simply enjoy tweaking weak minded fools like yourself and east(hole)us and Jamie boy.
 
Some folks need to let out a little steam. Maybe AOL could spring the cash for an all expenses paid vacation to attend a CLT crew news session... hotel, meals, rental car, panthers tickets, and of course a loaner yellow rain coat. PS. If you are unable to laugh while wearing a yellow raincoat, you should receive priority.
Now that would be money well spent.
 
I'm not stressed. I simply enjoy tweaking weak minded fools like yourself and east(hole)us and Jamie boy.
Yeh, Dom. That's why I'm back. Defeated in court twice and still you claim "winning".

I know why you won't tell anyone your real name. Even your West "brother" pilots wouldn't let you Jumpseat. I don't know who would let you fly Captain let alone any position in the aircraft. You're dangerous. That is a fact.

You guys continue to tell the aviation world how bad and evil East pilots are.

We on the East continue to accept attrition and growth.

You continue to wallow in your mire, cut your nose off to spite your face and the pilots at the ALPA carriers simply look at your situation and wonder when AWA will collapse and they can increase their union membership at your expense.

It is simply worth little to nothing to have any, with one exception I can think of, having any west pilot lead important committees like NAC, Communications, Merger, Grievance.

After seven years and counting you're STILL in PHX, not even in LAS anymore.

I want everyone to see the forum here and if and when I ever support any candidate I want them to see exactly what they can expect from the West pilots. The "we compromised under the ALPA promise" was never validated by the rank and file vote. West pilots HATE the democratic process and unfortunately that thinking permeates our national debate.
Oh, and expect the hate email.

If you're an East pilot running for office, you'll get hate mail from the West. (It wouldn't be any suprise if i posted it). It may sound unbelievable but when David Simmons says he represents the West pilots, he speaks and supports the West pilots like Ames....the radical element and there is NO placating them. Make no mistake, I've talked to Jeff Koontz and most of the West pilots I've spoken too in the union offices are nice enough. It seems to be a great act, but make no mistake. THEY HATE LONGEVITY BASED SYSTEMS. Ask them yourself. They don't value longevity, they value first come first serve. That is the policy they fought so hard for in the non-rev. You know, first one to the podium. These are the same people who line up for days at the movie theater and camp!

That's why I hope that this "trail of tears" Simmons and Ames (Dom) WILL be used in the next "DFR II" if it gets to that point.

You know the big JOKE on this last election? If Ferguson, Koontz, and Holmes ran on the premise that "We don't believe in the DOH provision in the C & B but we will work to change the very same through a constitutional rewrite" they may have gotten more votes from the East. Unfortunately they would be doing the same thing Hummel and Bradford haven't been doing since they got in. THEY DON'T COMMUNICATE WITH THE BPR and they negotiate with the company.

Now, for Ames, back at ya "captain".

Enjoy your career n PHX and have a great holiday.
 
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