Talk to the "nuetral Ual arbiters" about the nicolau award. Bring on DFR 11. Make my day!
Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion
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You got the message, maybe you screwed up reading it," Go for it", I am sure you can be a great F/A ,! I am sure it is better suited to "YOUR PERSONAL" lifestyle!
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Let's see, the first was before my time. As for number two, how am I to blame for the fact you numbnuts don't want a new contract. You're in the drivers seat, you're the majority. Like I said, real men of genius.
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"Not that there is anything wrong with that." Jerry Seinfeld
"NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND"
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Just save yourself the strain and combine your name to MClax. Most of us know you're one person.
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Another moronic statement! OKAY CLEARBEAN!
UAL pilots update
December 15, 2012
Dear Fellow Pilots,
This morning, with 97.66 percent of eligible pilots voting, 67 percent voted in favor of ratifying the tentative agreement to become our Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement. We are pleased to congratulate our pilots on this new agreement that puts an end to our separate concessionary and bankruptcy-era contracts. This agreement will begin to immediately deliver gains through its industry-leading compensation, job protection, work rule, and retirement and benefits provisions. Many economic provisions, including pay rates, per diem, contributions to retirement and others will begin not only immediately, but will be retroactive back to Nov. 30, 2012. Other provisions will require more time to implement, under the watchful eye of our ALPA pilots on the joint implementation team. For our pilots and their families, this agreement is a positive step towards a new future.
This vote also confirms the strengthening unity that continues to bring our two pilot groups together as one. We voted jointly not just for a new contract, but for a new future. From the beginning of this process more than two and a half years ago, we have worked in a coordinated fashion with our Joint Negotiating Committee, subject matter experts, professional attorneys and staff on the contract. We have proven our solidarity through joint efforts with informational picketing, family awareness events, legislative work and communications. We, as Continental and United pilots, have demonstrated throughout this effort that our interests as professional airline pilots are aligned, and we have recognized that we are stronger for it. Today, we are another step closer to a new future together as a single pilot group — pilots of the new United.
Now that the ratification vote is complete, we know that many of our pilots have questions about the new agreement and its implementation in particular. Many of you may be wondering about what happens next in the merger process, including seniority list integration. We will be putting together new information on these and other topics. Until that can be prepared, please continue to look through the FAQ section of the website at www.unitedpilotagreement.com for information related to the agreement. We will keep the website active as a conduit to answering your questions and providing additional information on our new JCBA.
For those of you who took the time to vote, to attend a Town Hall meeting, to read the TA, visit the website and ask questions, we thank you. Regardless of how you voted, you exercised your right as a union member to act. We would like to personally thank the Joint Negotiating Committee and the subject matter experts for the job they have done. The many, many volunteers who worked tirelessly these past few weeks during the ballot window to get you information also deserve our thanks: the Communications Committees, the P2P Fact Team and Fact Checkers, your Local Council representatives, Family Awareness representatives, and the countless others who worked behind the scenes without fanfare to gather data, create websites and calculators, etc. This is ALPA – pilots working for pilots. And we thank the ALPA staff who supported our volunteers.
We may have closed one chapter, but we have opened another. There will be many more chapters to come. We surely must recognize by now that we are stronger and better together than we are separately. Let’s move forward together.
In Unity,
Captain Jay Heppner
Chairman, United MEC
December 15, 2012
Dear Fellow Pilots,
This morning, with 97.66 percent of eligible pilots voting, 67 percent voted in favor of ratifying the tentative agreement to become our Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement. We are pleased to congratulate our pilots on this new agreement that puts an end to our separate concessionary and bankruptcy-era contracts. This agreement will begin to immediately deliver gains through its industry-leading compensation, job protection, work rule, and retirement and benefits provisions. Many economic provisions, including pay rates, per diem, contributions to retirement and others will begin not only immediately, but will be retroactive back to Nov. 30, 2012. Other provisions will require more time to implement, under the watchful eye of our ALPA pilots on the joint implementation team. For our pilots and their families, this agreement is a positive step towards a new future.
This vote also confirms the strengthening unity that continues to bring our two pilot groups together as one. We voted jointly not just for a new contract, but for a new future. From the beginning of this process more than two and a half years ago, we have worked in a coordinated fashion with our Joint Negotiating Committee, subject matter experts, professional attorneys and staff on the contract. We have proven our solidarity through joint efforts with informational picketing, family awareness events, legislative work and communications. We, as Continental and United pilots, have demonstrated throughout this effort that our interests as professional airline pilots are aligned, and we have recognized that we are stronger for it. Today, we are another step closer to a new future together as a single pilot group — pilots of the new United.
Now that the ratification vote is complete, we know that many of our pilots have questions about the new agreement and its implementation in particular. Many of you may be wondering about what happens next in the merger process, including seniority list integration. We will be putting together new information on these and other topics. Until that can be prepared, please continue to look through the FAQ section of the website at www.unitedpilotagreement.com for information related to the agreement. We will keep the website active as a conduit to answering your questions and providing additional information on our new JCBA.
For those of you who took the time to vote, to attend a Town Hall meeting, to read the TA, visit the website and ask questions, we thank you. Regardless of how you voted, you exercised your right as a union member to act. We would like to personally thank the Joint Negotiating Committee and the subject matter experts for the job they have done. The many, many volunteers who worked tirelessly these past few weeks during the ballot window to get you information also deserve our thanks: the Communications Committees, the P2P Fact Team and Fact Checkers, your Local Council representatives, Family Awareness representatives, and the countless others who worked behind the scenes without fanfare to gather data, create websites and calculators, etc. This is ALPA – pilots working for pilots. And we thank the ALPA staff who supported our volunteers.
We may have closed one chapter, but we have opened another. There will be many more chapters to come. We surely must recognize by now that we are stronger and better together than we are separately. Let’s move forward together.
In Unity,
Captain Jay Heppner
Chairman, United MEC
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Glad to hear we're still friends, luvthe9 seems a little less cordial than usual today.
UAL update December 2008
n 110 days, the process of Section 6 negotiations will commence.
It has been 2,058 days (5 years, 7 months, 16 days) of living under the current draconian contract and work rules negotiated under duress of bankruptcy.
In This Update:
» A Note From MEC Chairman Captain Steve Wallach
» ALPA Files Appeal In UAL v. ALPA
» Important Notice On Furlough Fund Assessment Billing
» Lost Retirement Savings Act
» UAL v. ALPA: Preliminary Injunction
» Update on UAL-MEC Forum
A Note From MEC Chairman Captain Steve Wallach
Last week, I sent you a letter. The day after I posted that letter, the number of pilots calling in sick went up compared to the average for the previous days in December. There may be very good, perfectly legitimate reasons for this, but we cannot count on the company interpreting it that way. So, let’s be very clear about this: my letter of December 12th was intended to tell you, once again, to comply with the Court’s order, and at the same time I wanted you to have important information, and my views about issues facing us. It was not intended in the slightest degree to encourage anyone to engage in any improper activity. I believed then, and I continue to believe, that I can convey my views, including those critical of management, without your taking them as a signal to do something improper.
So now we have a problem. As a union leader, I have to be free to write a candid letter to you, but if any of you reads that letter the wrong way, then I and all of your union leaders are going to lose our ability to tell you what we think. That is a sorry state of affairs, particularly as we enter Section 6 negotiations. But it is the reality.
So let me tell you again: when I give you information, or express my opinions, it is not a signal or a code to engage in any improper activities, or to do anything because you’re mad at the company or because you don’t like your December schedules. It is no more than information and opinion which I think it important for you to have. Don’t let it affect the operation.
ALPA Files Appeal In UAL v. ALPA
ALPA and the four named individuals in UAL v. ALPA have filed an appeal from the Court Order issued by Federal District Court Judge Joan Lefkow. Although the appeal has been filed, it doesn't change the Order of Judge Lefkow; the Order is in full force until either the District Court or the U.S. Court of Appeals modifies or terminates the Order. The appeal will take several months to be decided, and the District Court still has jurisdiction of the Order and of the case.
The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals last Friday established the following schedule for the briefing of the appeal. Defendants’ Opening Brief is due January 20; United’s Opposition Brief is due 30 days later on February 19; and Defendants’ Reply Brief is due on March 5, fourteen days later. Defendants have filed a Motion to Expedite the Oral Argument, which will follow the filing of briefs. The Court has not acted on that motion. Once arguments have taken place, a decision will follow sometime after that.
There is currently no schedule for proceeding to the final trial of the case. United’s lawyers have told our lawyers that it intends to push for a Permanent Injunction, but no agreements have been reached as yet on scheduling further pre-trial discovery and other legal activity. The scheduling of any such trial likely would not take place until after the ruling by the Court of Appeals.
n 110 days, the process of Section 6 negotiations will commence.
It has been 2,058 days (5 years, 7 months, 16 days) of living under the current draconian contract and work rules negotiated under duress of bankruptcy.
In This Update:
» A Note From MEC Chairman Captain Steve Wallach
» ALPA Files Appeal In UAL v. ALPA
» Important Notice On Furlough Fund Assessment Billing
» Lost Retirement Savings Act
» UAL v. ALPA: Preliminary Injunction
» Update on UAL-MEC Forum
A Note From MEC Chairman Captain Steve Wallach
Last week, I sent you a letter. The day after I posted that letter, the number of pilots calling in sick went up compared to the average for the previous days in December. There may be very good, perfectly legitimate reasons for this, but we cannot count on the company interpreting it that way. So, let’s be very clear about this: my letter of December 12th was intended to tell you, once again, to comply with the Court’s order, and at the same time I wanted you to have important information, and my views about issues facing us. It was not intended in the slightest degree to encourage anyone to engage in any improper activity. I believed then, and I continue to believe, that I can convey my views, including those critical of management, without your taking them as a signal to do something improper.
So now we have a problem. As a union leader, I have to be free to write a candid letter to you, but if any of you reads that letter the wrong way, then I and all of your union leaders are going to lose our ability to tell you what we think. That is a sorry state of affairs, particularly as we enter Section 6 negotiations. But it is the reality.
So let me tell you again: when I give you information, or express my opinions, it is not a signal or a code to engage in any improper activities, or to do anything because you’re mad at the company or because you don’t like your December schedules. It is no more than information and opinion which I think it important for you to have. Don’t let it affect the operation.
ALPA Files Appeal In UAL v. ALPA
ALPA and the four named individuals in UAL v. ALPA have filed an appeal from the Court Order issued by Federal District Court Judge Joan Lefkow. Although the appeal has been filed, it doesn't change the Order of Judge Lefkow; the Order is in full force until either the District Court or the U.S. Court of Appeals modifies or terminates the Order. The appeal will take several months to be decided, and the District Court still has jurisdiction of the Order and of the case.
The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals last Friday established the following schedule for the briefing of the appeal. Defendants’ Opening Brief is due January 20; United’s Opposition Brief is due 30 days later on February 19; and Defendants’ Reply Brief is due on March 5, fourteen days later. Defendants have filed a Motion to Expedite the Oral Argument, which will follow the filing of briefs. The Court has not acted on that motion. Once arguments have taken place, a decision will follow sometime after that.
There is currently no schedule for proceeding to the final trial of the case. United’s lawyers have told our lawyers that it intends to push for a Permanent Injunction, but no agreements have been reached as yet on scheduling further pre-trial discovery and other legal activity. The scheduling of any such trial likely would not take place until after the ruling by the Court of Appeals.
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Probably because an United NB F.O. With 13 MONTHS on the property makes $12k a year more than he does now....after 13+ YEARS. Oh well. We all have to sleep in the bed we make.
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