Another oh wise one, america west pilot hired in 2004.
http://web.mit.edu/a...nd Copilots.pdf
http://scabsr.us/duw1.htm
Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion
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Another oh wise one, america west pilot hired in 2004.
http://web.mit.edu/a...nd Copilots.pdf
http://scabsr.us/duw1.htm
Good for the UNITED F/O , on his payraise, my congrats, guess it is a case of envy for you, not having the qualifications to get hired at UNITED, as for me , looking forward to sleeping in my own bed! MM!
Let us just agree we will never view things the same! MM!BTW we were never enemies!
United Pilots: Leadership Void Costly for UAL in 2008
Chicago, Ill., December 29, 2008— Pilots for United Airlines said today that under CEO Glenn Tilton’s watch, United Airlines in 2008 clearly failed in its efforts to regain its former stature as the world’s preeminent airline. Over the past year, the airline has been plagued by an appalling lack of leadership and vision among Tilton and his executives. Tilton and his executives have kept United Airlines mired in financial and operational stagnation ever since it exited bankruptcy nearly three years ago.
Based upon Tilton’s past performance, the pilots see no signs that things are going to get better in the future under his watch. During Tilton’s tenure, the pilots point out, it has been apparent that United does not have a strategy that will enable it to take charge of its destiny.
“In many ways, United Airlines has moved backward,” said Captain Steve Wallach, chairman of the United Master Executive Council of the Air Line Pilots Association. “To its pilots, employees and passengers, United Airlines is but a shell of its former self. Rather than using the reorganization afforded by bankruptcy, including the billions of dollars contributed by the pilots and other employees to build upon United’s core strengths and brand equity, Mr. Tilton and his executives squandered a rare opportunity to return this airline to its leadership position in the airline industry.
“United has reacted to events, as opposed to anticipating and controlling them. As just one example, as a former oil industry executive, one would have expected Tilton to have taken early and decisive action to hedge against rising fuel costs. The record shows that he failed dismally in this task.
“Mr. Tilton’s consistent answer to United’s problems has been to penalize those who contribute the most to United’s success: its employees and its customers,” said Captain Wallach. “While Tilton and his hand-picked executives have continued to receive increasing benefits for themselves, employees have been laid off, and our passengers have been inconvenienced with a series of ill-timed and ill-conceived fees and unpopular cutbacks in service. To paraphrase an old advertising expression, ‘This is no way to run an airline,’ but that’s what you can expect from a former oil company executive, clearly someone unfamiliar with running a service industry, who never before had to care about his employees or serve the needs of his customers.”
A look at the Tilton record over the past year tells the story of missed opportunities, lack of leadership and dismal performance:
· UAL posted a $779 million third quarter loss, $519 million attributable to poor fuel hedges. The miscalculation on the fuel hedge is especially disappointing, considering Tilton came to United from Chevron Texaco, one of the nation’s largest oil companies.
· UAL posted a $542 million loss for the first quarter, $305 million higher than the first quarter of the previous year.
· UAL lost $151 million in the second quarter. With noncash accounting expenses, including a $2.3 billion charge for goodwill impairment and $82 million in severance costs, the airline reported a $2.7 billion loss during the quarter.
· During a time when the industry was attempting to consolidate, United Airlines and Tilton were jilted by both Delta and Continental. Delta, which considered a marriage with United, chose Northwest instead. Continental, which appeared to be on the verge of an announced merger with UAL in April, left Tilton standing at the altar at the last minute after calling off talks.
· Desperate for a merger partner, – ANY merger partner – Tilton attempted to steer United Airlines straight into the arms of US Airways, an airline known for problems in its management, its service, and among its employees. Only an outcry from the Air Line Pilots Association and the subsequent negative reaction from the financial community prevented Tilton from embarking on the potentially suicidal mission of a merger with US Airways.
· United announced in June that it was going to ground “fuel inefficient” aircraft, despite having no plans to replace them with newer, more efficient planes. This decision was based on then record-high fuel prices. Oil prices now are at a four-year low. On its present course and by the end of 2009, Tilton will have shrunk United’s fleet by 20%. This is yet another example that Tilton and his executives didn’t learn a major lesson from bankruptcy: You cannot shrink to profitability; you must have a strategy for growing the company.
· While United Airlines was losing money, Tilton furloughed pilots and other employees, cutting back on service and asking passengers to pay more for less. Tilton’s compensation package was reported at $10.3 million. This includes salary, stock grants, options and other added extras. Tilton’s $10.3 million compensation package dwarfs that of the CEOs of United’s competitors: American Airlines CEO, $4.6 million; Southwest Airlines CEO, $1.3 million; JetBlue CEO, $514,000.
· UAL doubled the fee it charges passengers for checking a second bag, essentially raising taxes on passengers and encouraging them to go elsewhere.
· United announced in August that it would discontinue complimentary meal service in coach on many flights to and from Europe as a way to cut costs, only to reverse those plans after passengers protested. The reversal was an embarrassment to Tilton and his executives, and it displayed how out of touch they are with our passengers.
· In a clear and stinging rebuke from the pilots and other employees, United Airlines’ “2008 Employee Survey” showed that UAL employees don’t trust, respect or have faith in the management of United Airlines. Only 38 percent of United Airlines expressed “Pride in United,” compared with the average Fortune 500 Company, where 84 percent of employees express pride in their employer. Also, 70 percent of United employees said they were dissatisfied with their jobs, 73 percent are looking for new jobs and 77 percent do not think United is a great place to work.
“2008 alone proves that Tilton’s so-called leadership at United is a failure,” said Captain Wallach. “Tilton’s body of work during his tenure at United Airlines speaks for itself. It simply is not working. The pilots recognize it. The employees recognize it. The passengers certainly recognize it. The investment community recognizes it. It’s time for the United Board of Directors to realize it. United Airlines must free itself from failed leadership and lack of vision so that it can become, once again, the airline for which pilots and employees are proud to work, and on which passengers will want to fly.”
For more information regarding United pilots’ call for new leadership at United Airlines, go to its website www.GlennTilton.com.
Chicago, Ill., December 29, 2008— Pilots for United Airlines said today that under CEO Glenn Tilton’s watch, United Airlines in 2008 clearly failed in its efforts to regain its former stature as the world’s preeminent airline. Over the past year, the airline has been plagued by an appalling lack of leadership and vision among Tilton and his executives. Tilton and his executives have kept United Airlines mired in financial and operational stagnation ever since it exited bankruptcy nearly three years ago.
Based upon Tilton’s past performance, the pilots see no signs that things are going to get better in the future under his watch. During Tilton’s tenure, the pilots point out, it has been apparent that United does not have a strategy that will enable it to take charge of its destiny.
“In many ways, United Airlines has moved backward,” said Captain Steve Wallach, chairman of the United Master Executive Council of the Air Line Pilots Association. “To its pilots, employees and passengers, United Airlines is but a shell of its former self. Rather than using the reorganization afforded by bankruptcy, including the billions of dollars contributed by the pilots and other employees to build upon United’s core strengths and brand equity, Mr. Tilton and his executives squandered a rare opportunity to return this airline to its leadership position in the airline industry.
“United has reacted to events, as opposed to anticipating and controlling them. As just one example, as a former oil industry executive, one would have expected Tilton to have taken early and decisive action to hedge against rising fuel costs. The record shows that he failed dismally in this task.
“Mr. Tilton’s consistent answer to United’s problems has been to penalize those who contribute the most to United’s success: its employees and its customers,” said Captain Wallach. “While Tilton and his hand-picked executives have continued to receive increasing benefits for themselves, employees have been laid off, and our passengers have been inconvenienced with a series of ill-timed and ill-conceived fees and unpopular cutbacks in service. To paraphrase an old advertising expression, ‘This is no way to run an airline,’ but that’s what you can expect from a former oil company executive, clearly someone unfamiliar with running a service industry, who never before had to care about his employees or serve the needs of his customers.”
A look at the Tilton record over the past year tells the story of missed opportunities, lack of leadership and dismal performance:
· UAL posted a $779 million third quarter loss, $519 million attributable to poor fuel hedges. The miscalculation on the fuel hedge is especially disappointing, considering Tilton came to United from Chevron Texaco, one of the nation’s largest oil companies.
· UAL posted a $542 million loss for the first quarter, $305 million higher than the first quarter of the previous year.
· UAL lost $151 million in the second quarter. With noncash accounting expenses, including a $2.3 billion charge for goodwill impairment and $82 million in severance costs, the airline reported a $2.7 billion loss during the quarter.
· During a time when the industry was attempting to consolidate, United Airlines and Tilton were jilted by both Delta and Continental. Delta, which considered a marriage with United, chose Northwest instead. Continental, which appeared to be on the verge of an announced merger with UAL in April, left Tilton standing at the altar at the last minute after calling off talks.
· Desperate for a merger partner, – ANY merger partner – Tilton attempted to steer United Airlines straight into the arms of US Airways, an airline known for problems in its management, its service, and among its employees. Only an outcry from the Air Line Pilots Association and the subsequent negative reaction from the financial community prevented Tilton from embarking on the potentially suicidal mission of a merger with US Airways.
· United announced in June that it was going to ground “fuel inefficient” aircraft, despite having no plans to replace them with newer, more efficient planes. This decision was based on then record-high fuel prices. Oil prices now are at a four-year low. On its present course and by the end of 2009, Tilton will have shrunk United’s fleet by 20%. This is yet another example that Tilton and his executives didn’t learn a major lesson from bankruptcy: You cannot shrink to profitability; you must have a strategy for growing the company.
· While United Airlines was losing money, Tilton furloughed pilots and other employees, cutting back on service and asking passengers to pay more for less. Tilton’s compensation package was reported at $10.3 million. This includes salary, stock grants, options and other added extras. Tilton’s $10.3 million compensation package dwarfs that of the CEOs of United’s competitors: American Airlines CEO, $4.6 million; Southwest Airlines CEO, $1.3 million; JetBlue CEO, $514,000.
· UAL doubled the fee it charges passengers for checking a second bag, essentially raising taxes on passengers and encouraging them to go elsewhere.
· United announced in August that it would discontinue complimentary meal service in coach on many flights to and from Europe as a way to cut costs, only to reverse those plans after passengers protested. The reversal was an embarrassment to Tilton and his executives, and it displayed how out of touch they are with our passengers.
· In a clear and stinging rebuke from the pilots and other employees, United Airlines’ “2008 Employee Survey” showed that UAL employees don’t trust, respect or have faith in the management of United Airlines. Only 38 percent of United Airlines expressed “Pride in United,” compared with the average Fortune 500 Company, where 84 percent of employees express pride in their employer. Also, 70 percent of United employees said they were dissatisfied with their jobs, 73 percent are looking for new jobs and 77 percent do not think United is a great place to work.
“2008 alone proves that Tilton’s so-called leadership at United is a failure,” said Captain Wallach. “Tilton’s body of work during his tenure at United Airlines speaks for itself. It simply is not working. The pilots recognize it. The employees recognize it. The passengers certainly recognize it. The investment community recognizes it. It’s time for the United Board of Directors to realize it. United Airlines must free itself from failed leadership and lack of vision so that it can become, once again, the airline for which pilots and employees are proud to work, and on which passengers will want to fly.”
For more information regarding United pilots’ call for new leadership at United Airlines, go to its website www.GlennTilton.com.
TENTATIVE AGREEMENT
TRANSITION AND PROCESS LOA
7/19/10
AGREEMENT
between
CONTINENTAL AIRLINES, INC., UAL CORPORATION,
AND UNITED AIR LINES, INC.,
and the
PILOTS
in the service of
CONTINENTAL AIRLINES, INC. AND UNITED AIR LINES, INC.
as represented by
THE AIR LINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION
_________________________________________
TRANSITION AND PROCESS AGREEMENT
_________________________________________
THIS TRANSITION and PROCESS AGREEMENT is made and entered into in accordance with the provisions of the Railway Labor Act, as amended, by and between CONTINENTAL AIRLINES, INC., UAL CORPORATION, UNITED AIR LINES, INC., and the AIRLINE PILOTS in the service of CONTINENTAL AIRLINES, INC. and UNITED AIR LINES, INC, respectively, as represented by the AIR LINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION by and through the ALPA Master Executive Councils of the Continental and United Pilots.
Purpose of this Transition and Process Agreement
Continental and UAL have entered into an Agreement and Plan of Merger, dated as of May 2, 2010 to bring about a “merger of equals” business combination.....................................................
To be continued
TRANSITION AND PROCESS LOA
7/19/10
AGREEMENT
between
CONTINENTAL AIRLINES, INC., UAL CORPORATION,
AND UNITED AIR LINES, INC.,
and the
PILOTS
in the service of
CONTINENTAL AIRLINES, INC. AND UNITED AIR LINES, INC.
as represented by
THE AIR LINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION
_________________________________________
TRANSITION AND PROCESS AGREEMENT
_________________________________________
THIS TRANSITION and PROCESS AGREEMENT is made and entered into in accordance with the provisions of the Railway Labor Act, as amended, by and between CONTINENTAL AIRLINES, INC., UAL CORPORATION, UNITED AIR LINES, INC., and the AIRLINE PILOTS in the service of CONTINENTAL AIRLINES, INC. and UNITED AIR LINES, INC, respectively, as represented by the AIR LINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION by and through the ALPA Master Executive Councils of the Continental and United Pilots.
Purpose of this Transition and Process Agreement
Continental and UAL have entered into an Agreement and Plan of Merger, dated as of May 2, 2010 to bring about a “merger of equals” business combination.....................................................
To be continued
OH YEA!
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You sure are on a little rant Luvr. Take a chill pill. Maybe take a break for a bit. It will all be over very soon. What a shame. You fellas were soooo close (NOT).
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OH YEA?? As is OH YEA we could have been on our SECOND post merger contract like Delta? OH YEA we could have enjoyed the higher wages, time off and contract improvements all this time? OH YEA you've got Date of Hire yet??
Don't worry Mut. It's all going to be OK.
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Fergie talking to APA
"Hi guys, I was hired in 2004, here is what I can do for you.......
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They rolled the dice. Their problem. Vegas wasn't built by winners. Neither was US Air.
Your america west base in LAS was not built by winners. You guys are finally starting to understand. Now is fergie offering the PHX winner base to APA in exchange for .......... Oh never mind fools.
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Chillax MClax, it'll all be over soon enough. If the merger goes through (which it looks like it will), we know you'll try and hold everything up. You'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming to a pay raise. It's why Doug loves you so much!
Bean
fergie and AOL to APA. "We will pull all the former america west assets off the table unless we get full widebody protection and.............. or no PHX base for you, then if you make us mad we will, er, ...............
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LOSERS!
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Nobody is trying or wants to "give away seniority." Thus you must have not a clue who I am. I can back up my principals on seniority with actions, over many years. And I never felt the need to vent and threaten others they would not get ride to work over petty politics. You owe an apology, though I could care less who you give it to.I have never met one, not a single pilot on the East willing to give up seniority. I encounter many here on this forum that question the value of the fight that has been waged, and I understand their desire to get their family paid. But you take the cake today. I cut everyone some slack, we all have off days. I have no clue who you are. But you, Eric Ferguson, Trader, and any pilot on our seniority list will always, always be welcome in my cockpit to get to work and back.Chip Munn is not a part of the recall group. Nobody on the East list wants to "give away" seniority. Stop it. Stop the lies. If you post those lies again, you will be called out by me accordingly.Greeter.
fergie to APA. "Our secret weapons Marty Harper and Andy Jacobs will put the fear of ..;;;;;;;;;;;;;/////// in you. Do not push us westies or we will pull all our PHX narrow body flying off the table, then..........................'''''''''''''''';;;;;;;;;;;;.
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