Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Freighterguynow]

Easties, your reps are now in possession of the knowledge that the Nicolau is the list going forward. Both the company and the UCC's counsel have made this clear to them. USAPA has been advised that they can either move forward cooperatively or be dragged along in this merger.

The beginning of the end of USAPA is just a matter of days away.

If so, you have just handed a Twa staple of us to the APA.

 

[end_of_alpa]

Who am I ?

A Christian human being, son, brother, husband, friend and all around good guy that happens to fly airplanes for a living.

But if you want to define yourself by what you do that is a sad statement about your life.

Captain at a major airline does not make you better than any other pilot whether that pilot is an F/O or a commuter pilot military or corporate. So very arrogant of you to think of yourself as better.

No wonder this dispute has gone on so long. That fourth stripe, emotion and ego over ride logic.

Get off the board and find a life. Because you are not going to be happy about the outcome of this merger. You will be lucky to continue to be a reserve captain at a major airline for the rest of your career.

Earned it. Get on with your life.

 

[cleardirect]

Earned it. Get on with your life.

Earned what?

You are the one self impressed with being a captain.

 

[BLT]

Who am I ?

A Christian human being, son, brother, husband, friend and all around good guy that happens to fly airplanes for a living.

But if you want to define yourself by what you do that is a sad statement about your life.

Captain at a major airline does not make you better than any other pilot whether that pilot is an F/O or a commuter pilot military or corporate. So very arrogant of you to think of yourself as better.

No wonder this dispute has gone on so long. That fourth stripe, emotion and ego over ride logic.

Get off the board and find a life. Because you are not going to be happy about the outcome of this merger. You will be lucky to continue to be a reserve captain at a major airline for the rest of your career.

Wasting your life verbally jousting with anonymous web denizens making no difference in the outcome of what has or will happen is exactly what jesus would do! Praise the lord! Keep it up my good man.

 

[nevergiveup]

Who am I ?

A Christian human being, son, brother, husband, friend and all around good guy that happens to fly airplanes for a living.

But if you want to define yourself by what you do that is a sad statement about your life.

Captain at a major airline does not make you better than any other pilot whether that pilot is an F/O or a commuter pilot military or corporate. So very arrogant of you to think of yourself as better.

No wonder this dispute has gone on so long. That fourth stripe, emotion and ego over ride logic.

Get off the board and find a life. Because you are not going to be happy about the outcome of this merger. You will be lucky to continue to be a reserve captain at a major airline for the rest of your career.

I know in your world everyone is the same, but to myself as a captain, there is nothing more valuable than having a sharp first officer. I am the one that benefits!

 

[Al Legheny]

What's every body worried about. The world will end soo....

 

[end_of_alpa]

Wasting your life verbally jousting with anonymous web denizens making no difference in the outcome of what has or will happen is exactly what jesus would do! Praise the lord! Keep it up my good man.

Well said.

 

[end_of_alpa]

I know in your world everyone is the same, but to myself as a captain, there is nothing more valuable than having a sharp first officer. I am the one that benefits!

Well said.

 

[end_of_alpa]

What's every body worried about. The world will end soo....

Well said.

 

[end_of_alpa]

Oh.....and Happy Holidays, ya'll!

 

[Claxon]

At least the west pilots can check the army of lyingitas web site to see what is going on.

Er, never mind, it has not been updated since November 1st.

http://www.cactuspilot.com/

 

[Black Swan]

USAPA Update regarding President's Message

USAPA apologizes for the content of the previous President's Message sent earlier today, and we retract the information contained in that message. To clarify, no agreement has been reached and discussions are still ongoing.

USAPA Communications


Usapa is so desperate for a win they just could not keep it in their pants. Jumped the gun and had to retract the statement. Could not even wait an hour before they had their pet reporter on the line. Oops.

This correction smacks of legal slap down. Hummel and usapa will be lucky if the SEC, LCC, and AMR don't sue for breach. Those NDA agreements can be serious.

Could be the last straw for the company. Give usapa,one last chance to play nice and they blow it again. Penalty! You guys are using the Nicolau. Remember how we ended up with the cactus call sign? Usapa stepped on their johnson with the stupid USA Today ad.

Poetic justice will be Bradford having to stand up and tell the east that he was wrong from the beginning and that Nicolau will be the seniority list for the us air pilots.

Back to the minor leagues boys. You are going to get to watch the game from the side lines.

I would give anything to be at that meeting when Parker finally finds his manhood and informs the BPR that they have wasted 5 years on a fools errand. Enjoy the Nicolau. The next 5 years are going to be a whole lot different then the last 5 years. You are not going to like them nearly as much. Karma she is a nasty girl.

The Cactus call sign came from Bular, who stated he felt your group lost everything in the merger, so they wanted to give you something so you didn't feel disenfranchised. This is the truth. As far as the company telling "us" we have to use the Nicloau? You just don't get much of what has gone on here for years. If Wake couldn't do it, the 9th backed it, and Silver says it isn' the case- then how can a corporation impose it?

 

[Black Swan]

My "Extreme minority view" was used in four of the last four pilot seniority arbitrations.

You'll find the cases right next to USAPA's DOH seniority list.

And DOH was used in a lot before that. Explain your logic that says that they have to go as the 4 prior? The seniority integrations in this company that have been IMPLEMENTED are by and far DOH.

 

[Metroyet]

The Cactus call sign came from Bular, who stated he felt your group lost everything in the merger, so they wanted to give you something so you didn't feel disenfranchised. This is the truth. As far as the company telling "us" we have to use the Nicloau? You just don't get much of what has gone on here for years. If Wake couldn't do it, the 9th backed it, and Silver says it isn' the case- then how can a corporation impose it?

They won't impose it. They'll just say no. No to anything else as it's too much liability. You guys are the only ones who don't care about the liability because you'll BK USTUPID in a heartbeat without a second thought. The company won't do that. So LOA93 until you retire or the Nic. I know, I know....you'd rather retire on LOA93 than accept the nic. B.S. I say. Look at those United rates and try to imagine what life would be like if you were a "real" airline pilot.

 

[prechilill]

And DOH was used in a lot before that. Explain your logic that says that they have to go as the 4 prior? The seniority integrations in this company that have been IMPLEMENTED are by and far DOH.

Trump, Empire...
The garbage you continuously spew, do you actually believe it too?