Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Phoenix]

Didn't I say a long time ago, if we merge it will probably be be a ratio with credit for WBs? That way the AA pilots get most of the top spots, they win. Maybe in a year I can say, told you so🙂

Bean

To recover you winnings for the correct answer, you will need to provide a link of proof. 🙂

 

[Metroyet]

We SHOULD be arguing front of the line in arbitration and that is the end of it.

We SHOULD be arguing front of the line in arbitration and that is the end of it.

This sense of entitlement and superiority complex is the very reason you are, by far, the LOWEST paid, and least regarded pilot group in the industry. If this merger moves forward APA Is going to out think and out maneuver you idiots in spades. You're fake union is the very definition of incompetence. Know why? Because of guys like you. Garbage in, garbage out.

 

[A320 Driver]

Didn't I say a long time ago, if we merge it will probably be be a ratio with credit for WBs? That way the AA pilots get most of the top spots, they win. Maybe in a year I can say, told you so🙂

Bean

There a lot we don't know Bean. Like what did the management say to the BPR last night and how they reacted to it.

 

[traderjake]

We SHOULD be arguing front of the line in arbitration and that is the end of it.

Neither you, I NOR Hoban have ANY clue how any arbitration will turn out, but I can tell you our reps should argue stapling the APA behind US Airways pilots. Then we have a fair argument. DOH is a middle ground argument and if we're going to play the game then yes, remove DOH from our Constitution and let's divide unionism further.

It's official now, it's no longer necessary to take anything you say seriously.

An arbitration is not like a negotiation, the arbitrator does not split the baby, he does what he thinks is fair.

Except for putting the Group 1 F/Os ahead of the Group 2 Captains, I predicted exactly what the America West arbitration would be.

 

[Phoenix]

It's official now, it's no longer necessary to take anything you say seriously.

What?

Nothing is official until Chip posts a link.

 

[traderjake]

What?

Nothing is official until Chip posts a link.

Your link was posted a long time ago.

 

[Phoenix]

Your link was posted a long time ago.

In the words of Boeing Boy.... PROOF!

 

[traderjake]

In the words of Boeing Boy.... PROOF!

You have to admit it was more fun when he was here.

 

[Beancounter]

To recover you winnings for the correct answer, you will need to provide a link of proof. 🙂

Thanks for reminding me, I'll be sure to archive the post. I'll bet a beer and appetizer (need not be happy hour prices).

Bean

 

[Beancounter]

There a lot we don't know Bean. Like what did the management say to the BPR last night and how they reacted to it.

I fully admit I have no clue about what is going on. I would guess that I'll get the short end since no one in the negotiations has my best interests at heart. In fact I have a bad feeling that the union that is supposed to be representing me, would like to see nothing better than for me to get screwed. My best hope is that the APA and company are smart or ethical enough to avoid it.

Bean

 

[BLT]

We SHOULD be arguing front of the line in arbitration and that is the end of it.

Neither you, I NOR Hoban have ANY clue how any arbitration will turn out, but I can tell you our reps should argue stapling the APA behind US Airways pilots. Then we have a fair argument. DOH is a middle ground argument and if we're going to play the game then yes, remove DOH from our Constitution and let's divide unionism further.

Yeah, lets take a really extreme and unreasonable position that has a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding with an arbitrator. That worked really well last time. I don't see how anything could go wrong with this winning formula.

 

[Phoenix]

Yeah, lets take a really extreme and unreasonable position that has a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding with an arbitrator. That worked really well last time. I don't see how anything could go wrong with this winning formula.

Arbitration would be a big risk for each pilot group and is a benefit to no one... accept of course for the folks that could send it there and wash their hands, like the useless "leaders" who dropped the ball and ran out of town... just sayin'. 🙂

 

[BLT]

Serously; to any/all that might be getting this on Facebook or otherwise, and wish to fly; realize that this corporate-blessed "quality" of ...umm..."pilot" is what you've got to look forward to in commercial airlines of the future. Complete village idiots like this can be avoided through military/real flying, or just by finding other ways to get yourself aloft..and NO...I'm not making either this drunken-appearing, drooling infant or his like up just to scare any of you. This pathetic, and then-hopefully drunken, or otherwise just-plain insane idiot is supposedly a "pilot" for a commercial, major airline of today!...Possibly even your "Captain" for your flight today..but..no worries...right?

Personally...I do a lot more driving to places nowadays than I used to........before this "new breed" of umm..."pilots" came to be even conceivably acceptable.

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[EastUS1]

cleardirect: Last thing I want to do is become a gov' ment employees.

You know better than the FAA who designed and signs off on the training programs

Make up your mind clear. Either the "gov' ment" his it all together in some unique and perfected corner of the universe, or doesn't. Umm...ever notice what amazing individuals the "gov' ment" will also sign off on to drive on the roads of America? You think the sky's any different in terms of "quality" control....seriously? Heck, the Feds even signed off on you, along with your "captain video" kiddies, and even such intellectual giants as Move2CLT....next case. 😉

cleardirect: "Man are you obsessed with these videos.Yes we have seen them. Yes they made their point." Oh yeah kid....they certainly "made their point" about your group ten times over. Run along now, little "spartan", "knight", "dire wolf" or perhaps even "Harry Potter" today? 😉 Have fun patting each other's backs while you tell yourselves that you're "knights" that've "fought with valor in many battles"....One couldn't make up such supposedly "adult" people as believable characters for children's comic books.

 

[traderjake]

What was so important that Steve Crimi had to leave the BPR meeting before it was over last night?