Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Zone5]

I never voted for ANYTHING ALPA ever "allowed" me to, disagreed with the arbitration process of our seniority (USAir v AWA), I will NEVER, vote for any MOU incorporating the NIC in any contract, screw a merger with AMR, they will not possibly offer me enough money to convince me that a "probationary new hire" should be "senior" to me.

I have taken it so far up my "professional" ass, after the first 4 or 5 mergers, that I just REALLY don't care how this turns out! I don't have many more years left and really don't give a crap about all you "youngsters", The fences associated with any merger scenario, will ensure that it will have ZERO effect on my sorry "lot in life".

So screw you; you know,...... one of the really great things about being an "old fart" is that it's not my problem......it's yours!

The "powers that be" are going to make A LOT of money off of this merger, us airplane drivers, not so much.

So there you have it, get what you can (on my back) and enjoy. I will be the, in base, (unless you manage to "steal my job") sitting on my ass, as an over 60 Intl F/O, being paid $BIG BUCKS per/hr to watch you, jerk each other off. ENJOY!

seajay

 

[Claxon]

Point? Who said anyone needs to have a point?

Boy you guys are slow on the uptake. I'm just following Claxy's format of dropping links and making pointless quotes for effect. I guess it works.

You are a junior United Airlines pilot.

You provided a link about AMR pilots against a US Airways merger. You tried to spin it into a post that said AMR pilots were against a merger.

In reading the link you provided, it quoted reliable sources stating that the American Pilots board and 95 percent of its pilots voted no confidence in AMR management. It was total misinformation on your part, pointed out to you by other posters. Then you came up with your I am a victim post above.

Weak and intrusive you are. So alpa like.

 

[Claxon]

The word I'm getting is USAPA is indeed embarrassing themselves at the table. Why did Freedom Scab Crimi leave early? I'll let someone else answer that. Hint. He wasn't happy about how worthless coc is.

""We recognize that Freedom Airlines threatens the careers of all professional pilots," said Eric Edwards, chairman of the America West ALPA unit. "We are disappointed that America West chooses to do business with a company that shows such little respect for its employees, which demonstrates how our company feels about its own pilots."

Your weak america west contract opened the door for freedom.

http://www.alpa.org/portals/alpa/pressroom/pressreleases/2002/2002-12-13_02.110.htm

Provide proof of your scab accusation of US Airways pilots, scab america westee. I have provided america west pilots scab info links below, respectfully waiting for your reply, scab.

http://scabsr.us/duw1.htm

http://wikileaks-press.org:81/file/airline-pilot-scab-list.pdf

 

[Claxon]

I'll do what is within my power, which is simply funding Leonidas, to keep usapa from succeeding in unilaterally deciding what is 'fair' for me. That is my main goal, not the NIC just because I gotta have the NIC. If usapa succeeds in using an east and west list, that wouldn't quite be reaching my goal, but I wouldn't exactly have much trouble moving on from that either.

Mr. B L

So your funding the nic, but you do not "gotta have it" , but you want it, but you do not need it. Stick to producing bad videos with auxier.

I provided a link to the army of lyingitas below, the last update was November 1st, keep sending them checks if you should, but if you do not think...........;;;;;;;;'''.

http://www.cactuspilot.com/

 

[Claxon]

West, Mr Kirby explaining the loss of your lottery ticket.

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2012/05/kirby-we-expect-an-amr-us-airw.html/

 

[Metroyet]

West, Mr Kirby explaining the loss of your lottery ticket.

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2012/05/kirby-we-expect-an-amr-us-airw.html/

I couldn't locate the Legitimate Union Objective that is required to deviate from the Nic. What was it again exactly?

 

[Metroyet]

Nice try Skippy, you have no clue NDA ring a bell, you no nothing, were all hoping you sold off for scrap.

Ask your scab buddy what the UCC lawyer told him about CoC and aircraft paint. Btw, the NDA doesn't cover the idiotic temper tantrums of a soon to be defunct scab organization. Nothing protected here. Where was Crimi?

 

[Claxon]

Ask your scab buddy what the UCC lawyer told him about CoC and aircraft paint. Btw, the NDA doesn't cover the idiotic temper tantrums of a soon to be defunct scab organization. Nothing protected here. Where was Crimi?

You are an america west pilot, you are a real scab, I have a video of a america west pilot scab, recruiting other scabs that I will post for the Sunday morning paper, coffee drinking readers. Hey, how is your Daily from Australia pilot scab doing now?

There is no quick merger without USAPA approval. Sure, a year after law suits maybe. Creditors committee, what say you.

 

[Metroyet]

You are an america west pilot, you are a real scab, I have a video of a america west pilot scab, recruiting other scabs that I will post for the Sunday morning paper, coffee drinking readers. Hey, how is your Daily from Australia pilot scab doing now?

There is no quick merger without USAPA approval. Sure, a year after law suits maybe. Creditors committee, what say you.

HA! Nobody...and I mean NOBODY needs anything from USTUPID.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

GO figure! 2 interesting readings

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

http://compasscorrectioncoalition.com/

 

[Piedmont1984]

http://compasscorrectioncoalition.com/

When Cleary was president the compasscorrection raked him over the coals on a regular basis. Now they are doing the same with the current leadership. Maybe they should have backed their own candidate in the last USAPA election. No wait...they did...and it was Gary Hummel.

On another note. Is anyone else confused by the merger discussion timeline. Hummel's message yesterday said the NDA would continue until mid January, but the AA board meeting is Jan 9th and the BPR won't consider the issue till the new year.

Who's on first?

 

[prechilill]

I'll do what is within my power, which is simply funding Leonidas, to keep usapa from succeeding in unilaterally deciding what is 'fair' for me. That is my main goal, not the NIC just because I gotta have the NIC. If usapa succeeds in using an east and west list, that wouldn't quite be reaching my goal, but I wouldn't exactly have much trouble moving on from that either.

A new snapshot of a lists would require an amendment to the TA. Anything amending the TA requires company approval. See you in court Parker and remember, no immunity! Thank you Justice Silver!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

 

[usa1]

Ask your scab buddy what the UCC lawyer told him about CoC and aircraft paint.

Parker and CoC ...

If you follow the money, you can see why Mr. Horton may want to avoid a deal, at least for now. On the other hand, if you follow the money, you can also see why Mr. Parker may want a deal. Surprise, surprise: there is a change-of-control provision in his employment contract that could kick-in if it is bought by another company and he is ultimately forced to leave. Depending on the structure of the deal, Mr. Parker could be paid more than $20 million.

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/07/09/american-and-us-airways-dance-around-a-merger/

 

[A320 Driver]

http://compasscorrectioncoalition.com/

Do yourselves a favor...take this with a grain of salt. This group, like so many others, think they know best. I don't give a damn what they think. I want to read the facts, decide for myself, and vote accordingly. These groups exist to front an agenda and to feed their anger. Well, I won't play that game. Lots of bad things happened to our pension, but they happened a LONG time before it went to court. It happened with the knowledge and support of some of our union officials because, in the end, they got theirs and left the rest of us swinging. So who was the bad guy? The lawyer that spoke for the company or the union officials that ignored the alarms bells and made their own deal? Think about it.

The MOU is another example. Every document is up for interpretation. But to truly understand it, you have to read it, not have some idiot with an agenda read the parts of it he/she wants so they can manipulate you into a mindset not your own. Or worse, tell you not to read it and just vote no because of what happened "before".

Every pilot here has a stake in what happens going forward. You cannot look forward and backwards at the same time. I am not asking that you take things for face value. Read the documents...ask the questions...get the WHOLE truth before you make a decision. And for goodness sake, distance yourselves from these groups that tell you only what they want you to hear. Balance...that is how you know the difference. The NC and our lawyers and our negotiator gave the good AND the bad and asked us to weigh the benefits vs. the the disadvantages. THAT is the way to make an informed decision.

Just my thoughts...Merry Christmas to all !!!

Driver...