Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Claxon]

"Yet America West President Michael Conway said he was happy to help Ansett and has no sympathy for the Australian pilots who quit their jobs after failing to win huge wage increases--an action that shut down virtually all of that nation's domestic flights."

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-10-30/business/fi-125_1_airline-america-west

 

[cleardirect]

Game over kids out west.

"Scott Kirby"

“As to the seniority integration issue, I think this is the way out of the box for them. For those of you that follow the industry, there has been this seniority fight between the former US Airways and the former America West pilots. And as long as that seniority dispute is happening and isn’t resolved by a court, they really can’t negotiate a single agreement with the company because they can’t agree on what’s going to happen with seniority. And they are waiting for a court to answer that question for them."

“This is a way to start over and — not start over completely, but at least have a fresh beginning. Today, you know what, the analogy I use is that they painted themselves into a corner into a room, and neither side can compromise. This is a way to start the process over in a new integration."

"Scott Kirby"
“And because it wasn’t done yet, the side that didn’t like it could prevent a joint contract from getting done. And because of that, the seniority integration never happened."

“In this case, there’ll be a joint contract in advance, and the seniority integration will happen."

“I’m encouraged that USAPA and APA, the two respective unions, are working well together and working jointly with the company. So I am optimistic that this ironically solves the largest hangover from the US Airways – America West transaction.”

http://aviationblog....r-us-airw.html/

That was in May. Before judge Silvers ruling. If Kirby is willing to testify in court as to what usapa LUP for changing the Nicolau is he is more than welcome to give it a try.

That was also before the company filed a lot of paper stated specifically that they believe that the Nicolau is the only legal seniority list.

Kirby can tell all kinds of lies to some reporter. Get him or parker under oath and ask them the same question. That is the only answer that matters.

 

[Claxon]

america west pilots not only flew in Australia for Ansett Airlines during the Australian Pilots strike, they made a nice video telling everyone how great it is to work down under.

Nice video of two america west pilots, in uniform. They think they saved Australia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5t5aE0iW4o

 

[luvthe9]

What part of Binding Arbitration do they not understand? The Binding part or the Arbitration part?

Happy Solstice

Hey it's Pete and Repeat AGAIN with the same old message, go run along and save those children. Every minute you waste here hurts a child you could be helping.

 

[cleardirect]

"Yet America West President Michael Conway said he was happy to help Ansett and has no sympathy for the Australian pilots who quit their jobs after failing to win huge wage increases--an action that shut down virtually all of that nation's domestic flights."

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-10-30/business/fi-125_1_airline-america-west

The key phrase in your rant being

"The Australian pilots who quit their jobs."

Quit their jobs. Not went on strike.


But what does any of that have to do with 2012 and a merger between AWA and US Airways in 2005? Not something 23 years ago.

Absolutely nothing. You have no argument so you are trying to divert attention away from the fact that your union has destroyed the point of unions, unity and has failed for 5 years.

But if you would like to continue please see mr. Dailey I am sure he would love to speak to you about this subject personally.

 

[nevergiveup]

What part of Binding Arbitration do they not understand? The Binding part or the Arbitration part?

Happy Solstice

I afraid you don't understand the part that we understand!

 

[Claxon]

"Just the facts please mam, just the facts."

Sgt Joe Friday, Dragnet

http://libcom.org/hi...n-pilots-strike

 

[Move2CLT]

I'd like to know the answer to this question. Doesn't anybody know? Or are they not talking.

Driver...

Because of a certain letter that was read to them regarding the Nic and its inevitable use.

 

[Metroyet]

I'd like to know the answer to this question. Doesn't anybody know? Or are they not talking.

Driver...

I know the answer. Ask McKee, just call and ask about the 600 million dollar question...then watch him stroke out.

 

[Metroyet]

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[mrbreeze]

Drink this in you east idiots:


I think...

C'mon, Move......just stop it, you're killing me here! Too funny!

breeze

 

[3dtv]

Because of a certain letter that was read to them regarding the Nic and its inevitable use.

When will you stop posting 100% lies? No letter. No NIC.

 

[luvthe9]

When will you stop posting 100% lies? No letter. No NIC.

It's the most severe case of denial we have seen in a while, let's hope he is getting treatment.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

Hey it's Pete and Repeat AGAIN with the same old message, go run along and save those children. Every minute you waste here hurts a child you could be helping.

Creepy stalker is back. You should be home with your wife and family, do they know you are a stalker? Enjoy the holidays, creep.

 

[Graceson]

That was also before the company filed a lot of paper stated specifically that they believe that the Nicolau is the only legal seniority list.

Used to coerce clarity from the court in a most narrow interpretation of liability on LCC's part should there be future litigation. The court responded with clarity -- it affirmed the ninth's ruling; it affirmed a wider (rather than narrower) range of reasonableness.