Delta Labor Relations thread.

[700UW]

 
Don't give me your tired and lame excuse about "self insured".
 
They still have to comply with many of the ridiculous mandates made in Obamacare.
 
What part of that is hard for you to comprehend?

Only mandate for is for them to have coverage over 50 employees.
 
And at UA, US, and AA medical are negotiated between the unions and the company.
 
Why does DL pilots have better and less costly insurance than the non-union employees at DL?
 
At DL its imposed, so once again, the only liar is you, so once again, refute it.

 

[townpete]

Only mandate for is for them to have coverage over 50 employees.
 
And at UA, US, and AA medical are negotiated between the unions and the company.
 
Why does DL pilots have better and less costly insurance than the non-union employees at DL?
 
At DL its imposed, so once again, the only liar is you, so once again, refute it.

No one is buying your snake oil pitch anymore.

 

[700UW]

No one is buying your snake oil pitch anymore.

Answer the questions Dodger.
 
Once again you prove my point, as you cant refute the facts.
 
So again:
 
Only mandate for is for them to have coverage over 50 employees.
 
And at UA, US, and AA medical are negotiated between the unions and the company.
 
Why does DL pilots have better and less costly insurance than the non-union employees at DL?
 
At DL its imposed, so once again, the only liar is you, so once again, refute it.

 

[WeAAsles]

Only mandate for is for them to have coverage over 50 employees.
 
And at UA, US, and AA medical are negotiated between the unions and the company.
 
Why does DL pilots have better and less costly insurance than the non-union employees at DL?
 
At DL its imposed, so once again, the only liar is you, so once again, refute it.

At AA I have the same negotiated medical rates as our pilots. No worry about any medical procedure forcing me to have to declare personal bankruptcy.

Let's hope Petey never gets any of those bills that we both SAW with our own eyes that those poor FA's and Rampers were posting.

 

[700UW]

At AA I have the same negotiated medical rates as our pilots. No worry about any medical procedure forcing me to have to declare personal bankruptcy.

Let's hope Petey never gets any of those bills that we both SAW with our own eyes that those poor FA's and Rampers were posting.

But how can this be true?

Petey says its all a lie, yet offers no proof proving what is posted is a lie.

 

[metopower]

Answer the questions Dodger.
 
Once again you prove my point, as you cant refute the facts.
 
So again:
 
Only mandate for is for them to have coverage over 50 employees.
 
And at UA, US, and AA medical are negotiated between the unions and the company.
 
Why does DL pilots have better and less costly insurance than the non-union employees at DL?s

We don't. Same as all DL employee benefits

 

[700UW]

According to Kevin, and active FAs at DL you dont.
 
Funny your CBA lets former NW's pilots keep the insurance options they had at NW, but Kevin and others cant?
 
So who is right?
 
How come the Pilots have a PPO option and the non-union dont?
 
Why do you get a 15% 401K match and they get only 6%?

 

[metopower]

According to Kevin, and active FAs at DL you dont.
 
Funny your CBA lets former NW's pilots keep the insurance options they had at NW, but Kevin and others cant?
 
So who is right?
 
How come the Pilots have a PPO option and the non-union dont?
 
Why do you get a 9% 401K match and they get only 6%?

NW pilots are on the same plan as every one else.During the transition there was a hold over I believe.
Pilots retirement plan was terminated so part of bankruptcy is a contribution to the 401 and no retirement plan....but you know that
There may be a pop option but I know nothing about it.

 

[WeAAsles]

According to Kevin, and active FAs at DL you dont.
 
Funny your CBA lets former NW's pilots keep the insurance options they had at NW, but Kevin and others cant?
 
So who is right?
 
How come the Pilots have a PPO option and the non-union dont?
 
Why do you get a 15% 401K match and they get only 6%?

Do you remember the women that came on FB showing proof that the medicine she needed to survive was not covered by the company and that she was going to have to pay $300.00 per month out of her own pocket?

Through advocacy and outrage stemming from that FB page that the NOer's hate so much, Delta then gave in and included that prescription under their insurance.

 

[WeAAsles]

NW pilots are on the same plan as every one else.During the transition there was a hold over I believe.
Pilots retirement plan was terminated so part of bankruptcy is a contribution to the 401 and no retirement plan....but you know that
There may be a pop option but I know nothing about it.

You may pay the same costs per month but have you read the fine print (Very fine print) regarding your deductibles and out of pocket costs?

 

[700UW]

Their pensions were frozen for the non-union, do you have a Social Security offset like the FAs do?
 
Do you know what that is?
 
And wasnt DL's pilots pension frozen while NW's pilots had theirs terminated?

 

[southwind]

 

 
At DL its imposed.

Is that anything like HAVING to join a union, in order to retain a job at a company with union employees, even though you don't want to belong to a union?

 

[700UW]

Is that anything like HAVING to join a union, in order to retain a job at a company with union employees, even though you don't want to belong to a union?

Taking a job at a union airline that has a closed shop is well known before someone accepts employment.
 
But they certainly like the wages, benefits and protection a CBA has to offer, now dont they?

 

[WeAAsles]

Their pensions were frozen for the non-union, do you have a Social Security offset like the FAs do?
 
Do you know what that is?
 
And wasnt DL's pilots pension frozen while NW's pilots had theirs terminated?

The company they work for is going to reduce their benefits on their Pension because they feel that if they paid in to Social Security through the wages they provided that they should be entitled to something back when they begin to collect. So essentially you can say that right now Delta is not really providing the wages they said they were since they're going to take back from their employees. At the end depending on how many years they live it could wind up being a substantial amount. 

Those Delta employees under the SS offset will be paying the company back basically.

My Pension was frozen and I have NO Social Security offset. (TWU)

 

[Kev3188]

Pilots have absolutely not had to settle for the same benefits as other workgroups. In many cases, they have negotiated far better ones comparitively...