Democracy

[Ken MacTiernan]

The F/As and Pilots each VOTED out of office their respective union's presidents. They are each a craft union.

We in the twu however do not belong to a craft union and are unable to vote for ANYONE in the international. Either to vote in or out.

Does that make the twu democratic?

 

[AMFAMAN]

Now Ken, you should know better that the twu knows how to think for you. Why do you need a vote when you have punks, drunks, and cowards voting for you at the convention?

 

[Decision 2004]

"WITHOUT FURTHER RATIFICATION"

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

But if twu posting supporters who are so proud of the twu, but fear to identify themselves, say the twu is democratic why are not all union positions elected on by the full membership? If the very "leaders" of the twu international are simply appointed how can there be any accountability?

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

Can a twu supporter answer why not all twu positions are voted on by the full membership?

 

[Decision 2004]

Can a twu supporter answer why not all twu positions are voted on by the full membership?

[post="176703"][/post]​

Ken,

You're kidding.... right?

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

Actually, I know the answer. I thought that I would offer any twu supporter the opportunity to answer this very important question. It seems as if the alias posting twu supporters know the answer too.

These same twu supporters can only bash AMFA for what they inherited from their sister unions. They are afraid to answer a simple direct question about democracy. Typical twu M.O. Ignore an important question that effect the dues paying members long enough and it will go away. Just like these twu supporters can not refute Bob Owens chart that shows our decline in buying power.

The twu is not only undemocratic they are also pathetic.

 

[Nightwatch]

*yawn*..you really bore me...same old whaaaa..."inherited by their sister union?"...oh I get it...not time to take responsibilty for amfa's ineptness just yet...let us know when you feel good about it....until then...*yawn*

 

[Hackman]

*yawn*..you really bore me...same old whaaaa..."inherited by their sister union?"...oh I get it...not time to take responsibilty for amfa's ineptness just yet...let us know when you feel good about it....until then...*yawn*

[post="176872"][/post]​

Yeah.... ho hum nightbitch. About time to change the alias again? The voices in your head are getting tired of the bashing this one is taking, so you shouldn't ignore them.

Just keep ignoring the questions you can't answer with the new alias, so we know who we are not talking to.

Nite, Nite, little nightbitch...... 🙄

 

[Nightwatch]

What's the matter Sackman? Not handled much as a child? The voices I hear are the ones of you amfaites whaaaaing about the same old humdrum issues that have been asnwered time and time again. How about some new issues? Like say, why hasn't the TWU given you a face makeover?

Nite, Nite, Sackman.....

 

[Hackman]

What's the matter Sackman? Not handled much as a child? The voices I hear are the ones of you amfaites whaaaaing about the same old humdrum issues that have been asnwered time and time again. How about some new issues? Like say, why hasn't the TWU given you a face makeover?

Nite, Nite, Sackman.....

[post="176995"][/post]​

Don't tell me your one of those "I likes to handle the childrens" sicko's. Jeeze, next we'll see you at the Mikey Jackson trial as a star witness

Face the facts geezer, TWA is gone, your not the spring chicken you were in the '60's, and you are now at the end of you career, and at the end of your rope apparently. 🙁

Are you gonna over the edge when your new twu hero's in the twu get ousted? Gee, I hope not. 😉

A twu face makeover? You mean one like the twu got you with the flattop and the bolts in the neck? Naw, I'll pass.

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

What's the matter Sackman? Not handled much as a child? The voices I hear are the ones of you amfaites whaaaaing about the same old humdrum issues that have been asnwered time and time again. How about some new issues? Like say, why hasn't the TWU given you a face makeover?

Nite, Nite, Sackman.....

[post="176995"][/post]​

Thanks for prooving my point nw. Your calling a request for an answer regarding the twu's ability to be democratic, as they claim they are, as "old humdrum issues" is proof positive that the twu is afraid to confront the truth.

As a twu posting, alias using coward why not give just one of the answers that you claim have been submitted "time and time again"? You want some new issues? First answer some of the "old humdrum issues".

nw, you and the other cowards who fear to identify themselves when posting lies and half truths are a perfect index as to why the twu is not democratic. Your actions are just like those of Iraqi insurgents. Use of a hooded mask is no different than posting, or in this case not posting answers, lies and half truths.

The twu where the membership DOES NOT vote on all union positions.
The twu where democracy is something to fear.
The twu where stating your identity when attempting to defend the twu's actions is feared.

The twu where they hate AMTs.

 

[dreese]

HOW FING HARD IS THIS LESSON GIVE US A VOTE AND THE BEST MAN WIN EITHER WAY WE WILL BE ABLE TO RALLY THE TROOPS TO SURRPOT THE WINNER AND WE CAN GET BACK TO WATCHING THE COMPANY. AND WEEDING OUT THE SO MANY COMPANY SUCKASS IN THIS COMPANY( YES YOUR NEXT GET ON BOARD OR GET TOSSED TO THE SIDE) LOCAL 12 PROUD

 

[Nightwatch]

HOW FING HARD IS THIS LESSON GIVE US A VOTE AND THE BEST MAN WIN EITHER WAY WE WILL BE ABLE TO RALLY THE TROOPS TO SURRPOT THE WINNER AND WE CAN GET BACK TO WATCHING THE COMPANY. AND WEEDING OUT THE SO MANY COMPANY SUCKASS IN THIS COMPANY( YES YOUR NEXT GET ON BOARD OR GET TOSSED TO THE SIDE) LOCAL 12 PROUD

[post="177370"][/post]​

Where do I sign?..and just exactly what was it you were stating?

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

nw, cio, twuer, are you able to answer this simple question?