FA Sick numbers

[Skymess]

The real problem with this thread is people making it an either/or issue. If one ran an experiment with holiday pay versus no holiday pay I believe beyond a reasonable doubt holiday pay would make a difference. If you ran a second experiment sending out warning letters versus no warning letters, I believe beyond a reasonable doubt that would make a difference also. So the question is how much of a difference would each approach make? Or a combo of approaches. It is quite possible to do this as scientists do about treatments for any medical condition. To do it as real scientists do would be possible but you have to control for any variables that might affect the outcome. In the end you can do an Analysis of Variance (ANOVA) which would tell you how much each strategy would affect the outcome. Currently my thought is some but not all f/as feel a sense of entitlement linked to management bonuses. In other words their Corporate loyalty is being tested. Highly loyal employees are more likely to follow company policies on sick leave where less loyal employees just blow off company policy. In the end I'm certain beyond a reasonable doubt that there are some employees who will take Christmas off loyalty, holiday pay, warning letters or harmonious company atmosphere or not. AA may have come to a similar conclusion, that beyond putting a horse's head upon the front porch of abusers, there is not a great deal they can do to control the outcome. Such a deterrent may go over in Sicily but has limited use in Corporate America.

Don't fall off your chair, but, I agree 100% with you.....at least this post.

 

[Skymess]

These BBs are so full of BS stuff you have to be very careful who you believe. Some are just not too honest and post to stir the pot.

Yes, some BB stuff is BS. On the other hand, many of you would be surprised who we really have posting on these boards. Some people pretty high up the APFA, APA, and AMR food chain.
I don't think it does anyone any good to try to 'out' any of them because, while there is a lot of crAAp, there's also a lot fo valuable things to be learned on BB's.

Let's also take a moment to realize, bitter comments aside, none of us would be here if we didn't have a passion for the industry.

 

[L1011Ret]

The main culprit is L1011 himself. Have you seen WalMart about a job yet? Airlines of the past would love for you to post also... You know if you move to DFW you could also be one of the volunteers at the airport who direct peole to their gates....what do other old pilots do?

As fat as SkyHigh Steve, I think this was brought up by another poster because if you look at Skyhighs Posts and you look at the the unnamed person's website whom he is thought to be, the similarities and styles of writing are very similar, in fact almost exact. He (the poster who is to be unnamed) is the one who made the assertion that reserves should not count if you call in sick, this after he was identified as the person who is to remain unamed (in fact I think I will just call him Valdemort).....Look back on all of SkyHigh Steve's posts and figure it out for yourself. This would be an assinine thing to do if you are running for office....remember the Macacaw incident in Virginia? And yes there are alot of lurkers on here, I just met one at my crashpad who knew whom I was right away, but isn't it funny that they have decided to post now? (I think it is great but come on...)

With a post like that you really show your developmental age as around 3 to 5 years old. That is what 3 to 5 year olds do as a coping mechanism for their inferiority, they insult others trying to make others small in an an effort to make themselves feel big. You ought to give that coping style up, others can see right through that inferiority concluding you are nothing but a backstabber. You do not present any argument, just self hate. You give yourself away.

 

[L1011Ret]

Don't fall off your chair, but, I agree 100% with you.....at least this post.

Thanks for the warning, I was able to hold on and not pass out.

 

[SkyhighSteve]

It was merely a suggestion for a way of addressing the sick list and the skyrocketing level of seniority for reserves.

Basically......we are screwing each other here folks.......if you call in sick someone else has to cover it.......it you call in sick the reserve list goes higher because the company will add people so they have a bigger pool to choose from the next time the holidays come along.

Please do you really think that any thing like that would ever happen (calling in sick on reserve= not counting your reserve month).....I was merely suggesting that in my humble opinion there is abuse.....we know it, they know it...How you go about addressing this abuse is the touchy subject.....The companies way of addressing it is adding a ton of people onto reserve....Our solution up to this point is....oh we don't have one.....So do we sit around and let them do this year over year?? Or do we come up with something that is workable from our end.....Do I think what i suggested is extreme.....hell yes it is......Do I think what the company decided to do is a solution for us....Just throwing on more reserves....NO. ........But a workable solution can be found somewhere in between......In order to make a point you have to lean way over to one side so that you elicit a reaction from someone. Sorry if it raised anyone's blood pressure.....not my intention.....but all I read were slams no constructive or destructive criticism.

I mentioned this on a previous post.....I AM NOT RUNNING FOR ANY OFFICE ANYWHERE... I hope that clears things up.

Thanks for the warning, I was able to hold on and not pass out.