Getting Ugly In Phl

[HPearlyretiree]

Just curious 700UW....can you provide an example (if there is one) where a non-union worker can assist a union worker in a work environment without causing the company to pay a fine? Please try to make it a practical example.

[post="308928"][/post]​

LOL!

How dare you even think of assisting this airline! No! You must have every single contract in your hand when you get within 8 miles of the airport! If you wish to use the lavatory, you must call the Union Representative and make damn sure that you take the alloted squares of toilet paper per the contract, use the alloted amount of water from the sink, and for God's sake only stare in the mirror for the alloted, contracted amount of the time that the union lets you!

And, God forbid, if you assist another passenger by putting their bag up in the gallery, you will be written up! Its better to have a late flight full of angry passengers than one that had someone not from the proper union assisting someone with their bags! If not, you are stealing jobs!


(satire/Reductio ad Absurdum) 😛

 

[AWAskyprincess]

Been there done that. No pay increase only pay cut 1st 4 years, moved 3 times at my own expnese,lost $10,000.00 in stock that I had to buy when I started. I have worked my tail off to keep this company alive, and will not have the likes of you or your union take it down, that includes my own union! It is the customer who pays my salary and that is who I am going to take care of.

So again GET ON BOARD or get off the ship.

[post="308494"][/post]​

NO WONDER THERE AIRLINE WENT BR WITH ATTITUDE LIKE THIS COME ON FOLKS ONE THING YOU WILL LEARN FROM THOSE AT AWA IS TEAM WORK TOGETER YOU ACHIVE MORE..IF THE BIG BOYS WANT TO HELP OUT BY ALL MEANS LET EM DO IT ...I AGREE IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET ON BOARD THEN TAKE YOUR SORRY LITTLE DUFF AND MOVE ON FIND WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY CAUSE YOUR NOT GOING TO RUIN MY DAY!!!

 

[700UW]

Since all you koolade drinkers don't care if the company violates the contracts, I think the company should start paying you all minimum wage since you think it is ok for them to violate contracts, accept it and help the company save biliions.

Lets see how fast you would run to your union reps if the company ever did that.

 

[700UW]

There is no excuse for letting management violate your contract.

Why bother having one if you let them violate it.

But on the other hand, you violate it or break their rules and see how fast you will be disciplined.

Fpr those of you who think it is okay for management to violate your contract you are nothing more then a traitor to your union, your brothers and sisters, the laid-off members and most of all the labor movement.

Another thing, there ramp has taken three rounds of concessions and management had the opportunity to amend the scope language, they did not therefore they have to abide by the legal and binding contract under the provisions of the Railway Labor Act.

 

[jimcfs]

davey bronner did more to make customers leave in one sentence on more than one occasion.
b.ben baldanza did the same,ask piney bob.....
guys like me are why U made it fool.....
you HP smacks come along like you got all the answers ,lets all get together for a group hug.....ahh i feel so good.
the way you all disregard contracts...no wonder ....
the work is cut out for everyone...odds are against success.
who makes up the BOD will ultimately forge your future not some love affair with dougie.....
and pay attention who infiltrates from U into your upper management positions....for then you shall be in for a rude awakening,USAIR style.

besides...when they integrate DOH...it'll be U all the way.

[post="308852"][/post]​

At least BBB had the balls to admit he was wrong, a trait that no one else in CCY had. We all see where BBB is (i.e. he had the smarts to get out of Dodge and go to greener pastures) and we see where everyone else stayed until the end.

Those of you complaining about what HP mgmt did in PHL need a reality check. If they were threatening your jobs, I have a feeling they would have just come in and laid everyone off and started fresh, i.e. clean house (not saying they still might do this... I know if I were Parker, I would, given the way you folks have acted). PHL has a lot of problems as it is, not related to you. Give the new sheriff a chance to fix things, ok?

By chance, has Parker come to PHL and given a pep talk / open forum like he has at other stations?

 

[700UW]

No Jim,

You need a reality check, management violated the collective bargaining agreement, not the Fleet Service Employees.

Can any of you understand the fact that the CBA's Scope Langauge makes the loading and unloading of planes at PHL the EXCLUSIVE work of Fleet Service Employees under the IAM/US Airways Collective Bargaining Agreement?

Management had three opportunities to amend the scope language provisions during each round of concessions, they did not, so they must abide by the LEGAL and BINDING contract under the Federal Law called the Railway Labor Act.

You people simply amaze me that you cannot comprehend that fact.

 

[delldude]

i see IAM in the driver seat and a whole western culture whining and crying because they have to abide by the contract...what a terrible world......

you're either part of the problem or part of the solution.....get along little doggie...

looks to me AWA is in for a big union shock......

we do things like we contractually agreed to here on the "east side of town"

 

[crushed]

Do you want the game of gotcha to get to the point where the hide cameras around the ramp in PHL to "catch" those who might not be as agressive in their work ethic? See then you can have another thing to squawk about. Bet the use of video isn't in the CBA so nothing the union could do. See this is how "Gotcha" works and that's my point.

[post="308977"][/post]​

CCY already tried that!
City of PHL said no.....only police dept cameras on property.

 

[rjh]

There is no excuse for letting management violate your contract.

[post="308969"][/post]​

I'll bet many union members would have no trouble waiving (i.e. violating) the contract when it benefits them--and then wondering why the company cant' "be flexible" when that person needs that favor to "waive' the contract.

 

[N924PS]

i see IAM in the driver seat and a whole western culture whining and crying because they have to abide by the contract...what a terrible world......

you're either part of the problem or part of the solution.....get along little doggie...

looks to me AWA is in for a big union shock......

we do things like we contractually agreed to here on the "east side of town"

[post="308994"][/post]​

Yeah,

If you can drag your fat old asses away from whatever foootball game is on the TV in the breakroom!

Even through two bankruptcies you just haven't gotten the message. And don't be surprised if the IAM goes the way of the Buffalo after the dust settles. It's the best thing that could ever happen for the "new" USAirways. Shedding a bunch of no loads.

 

[MrAeroMan]

Fpr those of you who think it is okay for management to violate your contract you are nothing more then a traitor to your union, your brothers and sisters, the laid-off members and most of all the labor movement.

Labor movement? What labor movement? The only labor movement going on in this country is right after morning break when all the newspapers disappear and you can't find a stall in the bathroom because of the "Labor Movement".
The problem with the labor movement is it is stuck in the past and has provided no vision for the future. It hasn't evolved and unfortunately will go by the way of the dinosaur if it doesn't change soon. It's made even more difficult now because it's fighting the war on two fronts. One is with business and the other is itself. It's not sustainable and only those that evolve will remain. The others will go by the wayside.

 

[GalleyHag]

It is not unusual for an HP mgr to travel to particular cities where the system is efficient and works. Anthony Mule <top customer relations dir> has traveled to DEN many times to not only train and familiarize himself with the ramp workings but also to send others. He does this when the system is good and wants to implement it in other areas. He always dons an apron on the flight and does service with the fa's. None to my knowledge have ever cared that he was non-union. He was there to help and learn and pass on what works. It's all about having a profitable, winning airline.

 

[700UW]

Amazing how you people think it is ok for a company to do whatever they want and violate the CBAs they signed.

Like I said, let them pay you minimum wage, take away all your medical, eliminate your vacation and sick time and lets see how fast you will be running to the union saying the company can't do that.

Grow a backbone and stand up for what is right.

 

[delldude]

you people from HP kill me....why do you bother paying union dues??
all you do is continually violate contracts and consentual giveback contracts for that matter......do you have to (edited) to get someone to file a grievance or be a union steward?
you've slept with management so long its a matter of daily routine.
hate to ruin your tweedle dee day but when you let management make these daily little inroads into your union culture you show them you are weak.and when do they exploit this?? in contract time and at grievance hearings.
i bet you don't file grievances too often do you??

 

[NeedForSpeed]

Labor movement? What labor movement? The only labor movement going on in this country is right after morning break when all the newspapers disappear and you can't find a stall in the bathroom because of the "Labor Movement".
The problem with the labor movement is it is stuck in the past and has provided no vision for the future. It hasn't evolved and unfortunately will go by the way of the dinosaur if it doesn't change soon. It's made even more difficult now because it's fighting the war on two fronts. One is with business and the other is itself. It's not sustainable and only those that evolve will remain. The others will go by the wayside.

[post="309010"][/post]​

Do I hear "shot across the bow"???