Grass Roots drive for TWU to replace AMFA begins.
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The cheerleader here just “pretends” he’s ignoring all of it. He has no viable defenses or explanations so what else could he do.
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So you’re calling something that’s grass roots a flop? When do you call 59 years of AMFA (Seeham) trying to get AA a flop.
BTW much easier and worth it to keep trying to get 50% plus 1 of cards from 3200 people than having any “real” shot at getting half of 17,000.
But don’t worry man. Seeham likes getting paid by the suckers (AMFA members) so you know he’ll never stop the scam. Easy money.
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So I just got word that the cards are flowing in from SWA Mechanics to finally rid themselves of AMFA and gain real representation from the TWU. This is a great thing to hear and it’s going to be fantastic for these people who have had such incredibly piss poor representation for the last 19 years.
Bravo and great job to all those grass roots people making this happen.
Bravo and great job to all those grass roots people making this happen.
Yes, very true sir.
They didn't lie about a card drive starting up at Southwest to try and get the TWU cards signed. They did have some very small group of folks show up near the Dallas hangars trying to pass out literature. They were successful in passing out some lit. to our Directors, Managers, supervisors, office workers, app techs, contractors, office janitors, and even one of our VP's. Now some Mechanics did get flyers, but most handed out went to NON-Mechanic Related employees. The VP that received one came to our hangar floor and asked mechanics what the hell is this crap? And that is how the word spread that the twu/iam/asso was once again trying to gain access to the mechanics at SWA.
These efforts were completely shut down in a matter of a couple days and they were all sent home with their tails between their legs. It was a very, very sad turn out for the asso. and their efforts. Even our management knows we don't want to have anything to do with that union here, no way in hell.
I have no clue if you have even been following these yahoo's efforts and what they are still trying to say a card drive for the TWU is going on at SWA. As you stated, it is completely dead in the water. So dead they have been claiming that the twu/iam/asso airline division web page Is the card drive at SWA, titling it SWA for TWU. When in FACT it is the web page trying to fight off the grass roots card drive at AA to get AMFA in. As it is properly titled on the web page as "Taking on AMFA" And absolutely NOTHING to do with an imaginary card drive at SWA for the TWU.
Now below I offer the web page they have been touting as a card drive at SWA for the TWU. But, before I post it, pls be reminded to look at the dates. All info is from almost 20 years ago, not up to date, or just completely false with no connection on where they got the data from as in the outsourcing chart they claim is true and accurate. What they have completely failed to include is the dramatic growth of the past 4 airlines that have recently voted AMFA in as their represented entity or are currently voting on bringing in AMFA.
Also note, the asso. claims to be and have promised to be so transparent in all past fights with the AMFA card drive at AA for the Mechanics group, and yet they STILL do not touch transparency with a 10' pole. The last time the twu/iam/asso. web page was updated was back in Nov. 23,2021, going on a full year soon. As well as the last update to their web page on "supposive" twu at SWA drive was back on AMT day. 1st chart on number of members is from 18-20 years ago. Second chart on number of a/c and number of mechanics is from 2021, what it doesn't show is all the 10,000 plus employees hired so far in 2022, and still hiring mechanics and related to this day ( I don't know the break down for just M&R as of yet) but we also have 750 plus aircraft, but not all a/c are in service. The outsourcing chart they are providing is way out dated too. Since the teamsters left at an average of 75-85% outsourcing, AMFA has doubled heavy maint, added double "C" check lines, boosted overnight maint from 16-18 a/c to 40 aircraft just in Dallas alone, has brought in so many new maint into back shops and support shops, added 6-7 new hangars with up to 8 lines of maint at each. Our current o/s % is more like 68-70% and has always been that way here at SWA from the get go, so really no breaking news there to the mechanics industry at all.
For the folks that really matter and are in the know, know that these are all lies, misinformation and made up stories about AMFA as they always do when the card drives get stronger and stronger. And now that the recent 4 airlines that just brought in AMFA representation and now looking at possibly 3 more, as American Airlines being one of them is a very, very huge concern with this asso. as it may just completely kill the twu/iam represented mechanic group thru-out the airline industry. They are scared to death and will do anything, say anything, and even keep a completely false card drive at SWA with the twu going just to try and fight off this massive growth within our industry for a Class and Craft AMFA Mechanics representational entity.
To be fair and balanced I leave you the web pages they keep taunting below:
Taking On AMFA – Transport Workers Union
www.twu.org
Facts are facts, don't fall for the rhetoric BS of two yahoos spreading misinformation and lies just to fight off a "CURRENT" very active card drive at AA for AMFA representation. As I leave proof below as well. Gotta love transparency...
Here's the link from the AMFA National site under "ORGANIZING"
AMFA | AMFA at American Airlines
www.amfanational.org
AMFA | AMFA at JetBlue
www.amfanational.org
AMFA | Spirit Airlines
www.amfanational.org
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Can you learn Paragraphs?Yes, very true sir.
They didn't lie about a card drive starting up at Southwest to try and get the TWU cards signed. They did have some very small group of folks show up near the Dallas hangars trying to pass out literature. They were successful in passing out some lit. to our Directors, Managers, supervisors, office workers, app techs, contractors, office janitors, and even one of our VP's. Now some Mechanics did get flyers, but most handed out went to NON-Mechanic Related employees. The VP that received one came to our hangar floor and asked mechanics what the hell is this crap? And that is how the word spread that the twu/iam/asso was once again trying to gain access to the mechanics at SWA.
These efforts were completely shut down in a matter of a couple days and they were all sent home with their tails between their legs. It was a very, very sad turn out for the asso. and their efforts. Even our management knows we don't want to have anything to do with that union here, no way in hell.
I have no clue if you have even been following these yahoo's efforts and what they are still trying to say a card drive for the TWU is going on at SWA. As you stated, it is completely dead in the water. So dead they have been claiming that the twu/iam/asso airline division web page Is the card drive at SWA, titling it SWA for TWU. When in FACT it is the web page trying to fight off the grass roots card drive at AA to get AMFA in. As it is properly titled on the web page as "Taking on AMFA" And absolutely NOTHING to do with an imaginary card drive at SWA for the TWU.
Now below I offer the web page they have been touting as a card drive at SWA for the TWU. But, before I post it, pls be reminded to look at the dates. All info is from almost 20 years ago, not up to date, or just completely false with no connection on where they got the data from as in the outsourcing chart they claim is true and accurate. What they have completely failed to include is the dramatic growth of the past 4 airlines that have recently voted AMFA in as their represented entity or are currently voting on bringing in AMFA.
Also note, the asso. claims to be and have promised to be so transparent in all past fights with the AMFA card drive at AA for the Mechanics group, and yet they STILL do not touch transparency with a 10' pole. The last time the twu/iam/asso. web page was updated was back in Nov. 23,2021, going on a full year soon. As well as the last update to their web page on "supposive" twu at SWA drive was back on AMT day. 1st chart on number of members is from 18-20 years ago. Second chart on number of a/c and number of mechanics is from 2021, what it doesn't show is all the 10,000 plus employees hired so far in 2022, and still hiring mechanics and related to this day ( I don't know the break down for just M&R as of yet) but we also have 750 plus aircraft, but not all a/c are in service. The outsourcing chart they are providing is way out dated too. Since the teamsters left at an average of 75-85% outsourcing, AMFA has doubled heavy maint, added double "C" check lines, boosted overnight maint from 16-18 a/c to 40 aircraft just in Dallas alone, has brought in so many new maint into back shops and support shops, added 6-7 new hangars with up to 8 lines of maint at each. Our current o/s % is more like 68-70% and has always been that way here at SWA from the get go, so really no breaking news there to the mechanics industry at all.
For the folks that really matter and are in the know, know that these are all lies, misinformation and made up stories about AMFA as they always do when the card drives get stronger and stronger. And now that the recent 4 airlines that just brought in AMFA representation and now looking at possibly 3 more, as American Airlines being one of them is a very, very huge concern with this asso. as it may just completely kill the twu/iam represented mechanic group thru-out the airline industry. They are scared to death and will do anything, say anything, and even keep a completely false card drive at SWA with the twu going just to try and fight off this massive growth within our industry for a Class and Craft AMFA Mechanics representational entity.
To be fair and balanced I leave you the web pages they keep taunting below:
Taking On AMFA – Transport Workers Union
Facts are facts, don't fall for the rhetoric BS of two yahoos spreading misinformation and lies just to fight off a "CURRENT" very active card drive at AA for AMFA representation. As I leave proof below as well. Gotta love transparency...
Here's the link from the AMFA National site under "ORGANIZING"
AMFA | AMFA at American Airlines
AMFA | AMFA at JetBlue
AMFA | Spirit Airlines
Your manifestos are way too long to read.
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You want to get a real laugh. This guy keeps saying he has me on ignore but then he posts on this thread. Goofball doesn’t realize that to see or write on a thread by someone he has on ignore he has to turn off the ignore feature.
And no he can’t figure out how to do paragraphs. And I guess he doesn’t want to use his Swampy handle anymore either.
But he’ll always be swamp water to me.
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AMFA Members. Whatever Airline you work for. Look at your Unions DOL LM2 which you can find in a search under Centennial Colorado. Ask your Union officials (They’ll block you when you do) who this man is and why so much of your dues money is funneled to his Law Firm? ASK QUESTIONS!!!!!!
And on here ask why the AMFA supporters never touch this when I bring it up?
And on here ask why the AMFA supporters never touch this when I bring it up?
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