Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.
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Kev3188
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There have been fund raisers for the FA campaign; mostly for things like pins & bag tags.
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thank you.
as noted, the IAM as presided over more job losses than any other union and being in BK is not the only reason why.
given that the IAM's fingerprints are all over Eastern and TW, DL people in ATL esp. cannot help but remember what took place and who was responsible for the failed strategies that cost thousands of employees .their jobs.
and when the IAM did no better in BK than what DL did in 7.5, the question again is why have a union if NW mgmt. prevailed and AA and UA mgmts. are now succeeded in reducing stations.
if the IAM were a company, it would have been out of business a long time ago.
it is only because of union friendly laws that the union movement even still exists in the US airline industry because unions have certainly not proven they can do anything to stop airline mgmts. or to provide anything better than what DL has provided its non-union employees
as noted, the IAM as presided over more job losses than any other union and being in BK is not the only reason why.
given that the IAM's fingerprints are all over Eastern and TW, DL people in ATL esp. cannot help but remember what took place and who was responsible for the failed strategies that cost thousands of employees .their jobs.
and when the IAM did no better in BK than what DL did in 7.5, the question again is why have a union if NW mgmt. prevailed and AA and UA mgmts. are now succeeded in reducing stations.
if the IAM were a company, it would have been out of business a long time ago.
it is only because of union friendly laws that the union movement even still exists in the US airline industry because unions have certainly not proven they can do anything to stop airline mgmts. or to provide anything better than what DL has provided its non-union employees
Apparently you think your are correct when there are thousands of articles, documentaries and books about Lorenzo and what he did at CO and EA.
Why did the Courts remove him from EA and the US Government ban him from the industry?
Do you believe in your own version of history?
Union friendly laws?
You have got to be kidding?
Why did the Courts remove him from EA and the US Government ban him from the industry?
Do you believe in your own version of history?
Union friendly laws?
You have got to be kidding?
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believe it was he who also got banned by the US from running an airline Of course Ichan did not do much better either in the airline a union is very well needed and warranted
Baba,
This is a free an open forum, if you dont like what a poster has to say then dont read it or use the ignore feature.
Anyone is free to post about unions and their opinions, you parrot DL's Third Party Maintained anti-union campaign, which DL is paying Ford and Harrison over $10 million to fight you and your coworkers having a say in the workplace and a CBA which protects you and them.
Yet you dont even do any research on what F&H posts and you repeat.
Ask the people that were there and lived it, you believe the anti-union venom DL puts out from Ford and Harrison.
Do you realize the IAM at TW had an agreement with the APFA on seniority and they reneged?
Do you know the IAM spent over $6 million on fighting for the former TW FAs even after they werent IAM members?
Do you know the Pilots got stapled also and the ramp and maintenance went to arbitration and its called the Kasher decision, read it and educate yourself on it.
Do you know that AA made EVERY union at TW waive their LPPs in bankruptcy or AA wouldnt have acquired TW and TW would have gone out of business?
Ask Kevin about NW and Chapter 11, NW wanted to contract out almost everything, if the IAM was so bad, how come they brought over 40 NW ramp staffed stations to the merger and DL only brought 14?
For a change, stop believing the rhetoric and look up the facts.
So what if DL spent that $10+ million on improving your pay, working conditions, and benefits, instead of fighting the FAs who want to be in a union?
Here is something poised to the NoWay Crowd:
This is a free an open forum, if you dont like what a poster has to say then dont read it or use the ignore feature.
Anyone is free to post about unions and their opinions, you parrot DL's Third Party Maintained anti-union campaign, which DL is paying Ford and Harrison over $10 million to fight you and your coworkers having a say in the workplace and a CBA which protects you and them.
Yet you dont even do any research on what F&H posts and you repeat.
Ask the people that were there and lived it, you believe the anti-union venom DL puts out from Ford and Harrison.
Do you realize the IAM at TW had an agreement with the APFA on seniority and they reneged?
Do you know the IAM spent over $6 million on fighting for the former TW FAs even after they werent IAM members?
Do you know the Pilots got stapled also and the ramp and maintenance went to arbitration and its called the Kasher decision, read it and educate yourself on it.
Do you know that AA made EVERY union at TW waive their LPPs in bankruptcy or AA wouldnt have acquired TW and TW would have gone out of business?
Ask Kevin about NW and Chapter 11, NW wanted to contract out almost everything, if the IAM was so bad, how come they brought over 40 NW ramp staffed stations to the merger and DL only brought 14?
For a change, stop believing the rhetoric and look up the facts.
So what if DL spent that $10+ million on improving your pay, working conditions, and benefits, instead of fighting the FAs who want to be in a union?
Here is something poised to the NoWay Crowd:
Kev3188
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"Groundco."
Enough said.
BTW, since no one else seems willing to respond, the answer to "what scope does DL ACS have?" Is NONE.
Enough said.
BTW, since no one else seems willing to respond, the answer to "what scope does DL ACS have?" Is NONE.
( keeping in mind that we are still not at pre-bankruptcy levels).
Why do you regurgitate this lie?
Just not true, I have paychecks to back it up.
and i'm NOT counting profit sharing, shared rewards or performance pays.
btw 2004 $52 a paycheck for medical
2006--- $33.50
2008- $33.50
2010- $35.00
2012- $40.00
2014- $ 28.50
2015- $51.50
My "rewards" pay makes up for it alone.
Not profit sharing or shared rewards.
My performance pay alone makes up the difference.
Why do you regurgitate this lie?
Just not true, I have paychecks to back it up.
and i'm NOT counting profit sharing, shared rewards or performance pays.
btw 2004 $52 a paycheck for medical
2006--- $33.50
2008- $33.50
2010- $35.00
2012- $40.00
2014- $ 28.50
2015- $51.50
My "rewards" pay makes up for it alone.
Not profit sharing or shared rewards.
My performance pay alone makes up the difference.
BTW 2014 total skybucs(performance pays) $ 840.
2014 shared rewards $1075.
again NOT counting Profit sharing which for me was over $4000 for 2014
I don't even fly high hrs.
Doesn't take a genius to figure out that these two programs alone pay for
my healthcare premiums.
YOUR numbers STOP at 2013 Why is that?
inconvenient truth?
2014 shared rewards $1075.
again NOT counting Profit sharing which for me was over $4000 for 2014
I don't even fly high hrs.
Doesn't take a genius to figure out that these two programs alone pay for
my healthcare premiums.
YOUR numbers STOP at 2013 Why is that?
inconvenient truth?
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