Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.
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http://www.thestand.org/2015/11/delta-flight-attendants-seeking-a-voice-at-work-with-iam/
Delta flight attendants seeking a voice at work with IAM
Delta flight attendants seeking a voice at work with IAM
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Card Fraud and the IAM The Delta Air Lines Flight Attendants’ Story
Employees who never signed cards received messages thanking them for signing cards.
Employees who never signed cards were approached by IAM organizers and asked to sign again because their “card had expired”.
Employees who never signed cards were told the IAM had cards on file in their names.
Employees who never signed cards received messages thanking them for signing cards.
Employees who never signed cards were approached by IAM organizers and asked to sign again because their “card had expired”.
Employees who never signed cards were told the IAM had cards on file in their names.
Kev3188
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Soo... Anyone know when the DOJ's gonna get on it, and resolve this?
The two of you should both at least agree on a need for that, even if for polar opposite reasons...
The two of you should both at least agree on a need for that, even if for polar opposite reasons...
Kev,
Petey aka Pinocchio, is blinded by his hatred and lies. He will never understand the company is the only one who would benefit from fraudulent cards.
And him posting a F&H Boeing anti-union propaganda is not credible proof of anything.
Petey aka Pinocchio, is blinded by his hatred and lies. He will never understand the company is the only one who would benefit from fraudulent cards.
And him posting a F&H Boeing anti-union propaganda is not credible proof of anything.
Kev3188
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Yeah, I know.
"Words on the street" and anti-worker messaging don't mean much.
Everyone on both sides of this discussion should be using for real resolution/reform here...
"Words on the street" and anti-worker messaging don't mean much.
Everyone on both sides of this discussion should be using for real resolution/reform here...
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700UW said:
I actually read this article in "the stand", but I have to say, the case for unionization (be it IAM or any other) presented here, at least as written by the co-authors, is very weak.
Right off the bat, there is a statement that doesn't pass the smell test. "Workplace and personal safety are major issues faced by this workforce in their challenge to unionize."
It may sound naive, but I can't figure out what safety issues DL FAs are facing? Afterall AA, WN, BA and DL (the carriers that I routinely fly) have, in general the same workplace and in general perform the same tasks. Are DL aircraft more dangerous? As far as personal safety, I don't know what to think? I mean is DL an airline of choice for thugs or unruly passengers? DTW is not really in the 'hood? Maybe ATL is a dangerous place? Are DL pilots flyign the planes recklessly? The personal safety comment almost makes me want to laugh.
But the best part is this: on one hand the authors state that "... Delta flight attendants have lost over 60 years of the progress enjoyed by their sisters and brothers at other unionized U.S. air carriers such as American, United and Alaska."
But on the other hand: ".....federal government statistics ..... have consistently shown that aircraft cabins are dangerous workplaces, with flight attendant injury rates many times higher than those experienced by employees in private industry as a whole."
That suggests that over the last 60 years FA unions have done absolutely nothing to improve workplace safety. Why would it then be good to join a useless organization?
Why can't the IAM (or whatever union is hoping to grab the DL FAs as their customers) just try to sell that with a union you could get a better compenstaion package? That, IMHO, could be a motivation to join a union.
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Kev3188 said:
Agreed 100%.
The vote to join or not join should be conducted fairly with no shenanigans by either side.
(if that is what the DOJ is investigating - I haven't read the almost 600 pages of this thread)
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