Is It Right Screwing Over The Airline Operations

[Fubijaakr]

Anyone else hear that broken record playing?

[post="231681"][/post]​

Yep. Sick leave is an earned benefit to be used at an employee's discretion. Savvy managers would plan extra staffing for the holidays.

Seems USAir managers are either deliberately or unintentionally incompetent.

 

[Fubijaakr]

All of your US Airways employees who staged the sickout yesterday and today should be terminated unless they were really too ill to come to work. The company should establish a policy of any one calling in sick during a very busy travel time should be required to see a doctor and provide the doctors note to management upon their return to work.

[post="231853"][/post]​

So, I believe you're saying a Dr's note is not currently required by the contracts of the various work groups. If it is not required by the contract, the Company has no way to pursue the disciplinary action you appear to deem appropriate.

Until that IS required in a contract, sick leave is an earned benefit to be taken at the employee's discretion.

Perhaps we should blame management for not having the foresight to require documentation of sickness as a requirement for sick leave.

Since you don't have it, advocating illegal disciplinary action is pretty ignorant.

 

[elmerfishpaw]

Here's a horrific thought...all the hours of those who stayed and worked I think (I'm not a USAirways employee) would be paid in mid January? Now, what if the airline liquidates and the cheques all bounce? That would be the most horrible insult of all. Maybe the people who called off ill knew this maybe would happen and didn't want to work the holiday for free.

 

[crushed]

Let me see if I understand this.......

US ramp in PHL almost shut down because of sick calls this week. (says the company)

You say "Fire them all" so that we work with this staffing everyday?

Yeah! That'll fix things!


Oh wait, I forgot, there's all those people who are lining up break their backs for $8 an hour in the freezing rain for a dying company.

 

[phl/yyz]

Considering what is happening, and how many caring employees work here at US Airways, should we support/demand discipline with regard to people who are bent on deystroying the airline though sick abuse, walking off the job and so on.

Please weigh in

[post="231500"][/post]​

as a former PHL F/A wake up and smell the coffee the airline paid VERY well and still does...things at U were the best of the best those days are gone...getting top pay for unskilled labor is in the past...the only thing the union did for me was take 39.00 a month...there is nothing out there that pays close to the scale even with all the cuts...the company does not owe you anything...you people that caused the mess in PHL better get a job at WAWA soon they will not have openings all the usair people will be working for 6$ an hr. be carefull what you wish for... one who knows

 

[Winglet]

Oh wait, I forgot, there's all those people who are lining up break their backs for $8 an hour in the freezing rain for a dying company.

[post="232638"][/post]​

Guess what kind of employee you get for $8 an hour living in a very high cost of living city? Oh, yea, they're going to show up on holidays, weekends, and put-out 120% efforts to make up for labor shortages.

 

[basher]

Sure , Id be there if we go under, First i was referring to the ones who "sicked out" so pull your fangs back in, second, if we do go under, I can rest easy knowing i did my job, and used the golden fule! DO UNTO OTHERS! I hope non e of you would do this to your own family!

[post="232290"][/post]​

Like I said, work for peanuts or spend priceless time with your family. We all have gave up quite a bit over the years, but management gave up 1%. If the people in CCY really cared they would have stepped up and gave more. This is a monster that they created, there is no ethics in this company, and most management is book taught and not from a airline background. The blame game goes on and on. The public know what happening, and why this is going on. And you sir, surf the web on company time doesnt really set a great example. Your posts sometimes are copied on to my website..... my current network is over 7 million people. And, wow do I get some feedback. I travel the USA on paid tickets playing shows. I live with 4 silver prefered pax, I have 4 friends in PHL who are US1's and I make sure they know what you all are up to. So Mr cri boi I have you ISP as well, maybe your sup needs to know as well. You can say fire everyone, but what you fail to notice from you books from college .... we have the WORST WEB SITE IN THE INDUSTRY. Our outsoured work in San Salvadore is aweful .... I get nothing but negitive feed back about it all day. You need to check yourslef cause you look like a fool to 7 million people,

 

[nycbusdriver]

Here's a horrific thought...all the hours of those who stayed and worked I think (I'm not a USAirways employee) would be paid in mid January? Now, what if the airline liquidates and the cheques all bounce? That would be the most horrible insult of all. Maybe the people who called off ill knew this maybe would happen and didn't want to work the holiday for free.

[post="232637"][/post]​

BINGO!!!

Those that stayed home will be called visionaries; those that went the "extra mile" will be called suckers.

 

[deano]

BINGO!!!

Those that stayed home will be called visionaries; those that went the "extra mile" will be called suckers.

[post="232712"][/post]​

Braniff comes to mind where a mechanic friend of mine worked three weeks of solid overtime to "help out" a struggling company. That was 21 straight days of non stop OT only to see it fold. He never received one red cent for his "help", true story.

There is no longer reason to care if U makes it or not and all the ones blasting the sick callers are more screwed up then the ones who called off because they are in some serious denial and afraid of what awaits them in the real world. U’s world is surreal and crumbling down upon you, look up once and a while and you will plainly see it.

 

[N924PS]

Braniff comes to mind where a mechanic friend of mine worked three weeks of solid overtime to "help out" a struggling company. That was 21 straight days of non stop OT only to see it fold. He never received one red cent for his "help", true story.

There is no longer reason to care if U makes it or not and all the ones blasting the sick callers are more screwed up then the ones who called off because they are in some serious denial and afraid of what awaits them in the real world. U’s world is surreal and crumbling down upon you, look up once and a while and you will plainly see it.

[post="232719"][/post]​

Contrary to your opinion, there are thousands of USAirways employees that have good reasons to care whether U survives.

Some of those good reasons include:

1/ Their Homes
2/ Their Children's Futures
3/ Their Medical Insurances
4/ Their Retirement Benefits (such as they are)
5/ Their Livelihoods

Guess what? They are already in the "real world" and they know that even though the cards being dealt are not in their favor, they are still better off seeing U survive and perhaps someday, prosper once again.

I'll bet most U employees would do as the BNF mechanic did. He had pride and work ethic that is sorely lacking in certain U employees. The soul of USAirways is the MAJORITY of employee wired that same way.

A lot of good people will do what it takes to keep U a going concern. If you personally don't have what it takes, step aside and let others move ahead.

And if you look up once and awhile, you can plainly see that more employees are for the company than against it. Those that fraudulently called off sick are in the minority, but were in a position to cause great harm to the company. And the media, who has never been a fan of U, especially in its hub cities, is rubbing extra salt in the egregious wound.

 

[US1YFARE]

Contrary to your opinion, there are thousands of USAirways employees that have good reasons to care whether U survives.

Some of those good reasons include:

1/ Their Homes
2/ Their Children's Futures
3/ Their Medical Insurances
4/ Their Retirement Benefits (such as they are)
5/ Their Livelihoods

Guess what? They are already in the "real world" and they know that even though the cards being dealt are not in their favor, they are still better off seeing U survive and perhaps someday, prosper once again.

I'll bet most U employees would do as the BNF mechanic did. He had pride and work ethic that is sorely lacking in certain U employees. The soul of USAirways is the MAJORITY of employee wired that same way.

A lot of good people will do what it takes to keep U a going concern. If you personally don't have what it takes, step aside and let others move ahead.

And if you look up once and awhile, you can plainly see that more employees are for the company than against it. Those that fraudulently called off sick are in the minority, but were in a position to cause great harm to the company. And the media, who has never been a fan of U, especially in its hub cities, is rubbing extra salt in the egregious wound.

[post="232998"][/post]​

I agree, but with the recent events, it is going to be tough to keep even your most loyal customers. We've stuck by U, but enough is enough.

 

[N924PS]

Yep. Sick leave is an earned benefit to be used at an employee's discretion. Savvy managers would plan extra staffing for the holidays.

Seems USAir managers are either deliberately or unintentionally incompetent.

[post="232629"][/post]​

FUBAR,

Sick leave is for when you are legitimately sick. Sick leave is not a vacation day to be used at an employees discretion because their seniority did not allow them to hold a holiday off.

Savvy managers expect adults to act as such and report for work as scheduled.
How about the other cities on the days mentioned? How did things go in CLT or PIT or LGA? Sure some people were really sick. You know PHL Fleet and plenty of the F/A's were not.

Hoping the Eagles tank in the playoffs.......

 

[UseYourHead]

Give us a chance to take care of the deadwood here, this latest stroke of squireliness can help in that effort. There is not a judge, Transportation official, neighbor, or even 95% of the hard working employees here who condone what has occured.

95% of us care greatly about your continued patronage.

I agree, but with the recent events, it is going to be tough to keep even your most loyal customers. We've stuck by U, but enough is enough.

[post="233007"][/post]​

 

[UseYourHead]

Fubijaakr,

Sick leave is an employee benifit to be used when one is sick. Sick leave abuse (calling in sick when your not) is stealing, and getting fired for it is not unreasonable.

It is upsurd to suggest that every holiday we have to over staff for all the extra people that will call in sick to get the holiday off.

Shame on them, if they get fired, oh well...take care of that now and next year have a staff that will show up to work and do there part.

DUH

Yep. Sick leave is an earned benefit to be used at an employee's discretion. Savvy managers would plan extra staffing for the holidays.

Seems USAir managers are either deliberately or unintentionally incompetent.

[post="232629"][/post]​

 

[Winglet]

FUBAR,

Sick leave is for when you are legitimately sick. Sick leave is not a vacation day to be used at an employees discretion because their seniority did not allow them to hold a holiday off.

Savvy managers expect adults to act as such and report for work as scheduled.
How about the other cities on the days mentioned? How did things go in CLT or PIT or LGA? Sure some people were really sick. You know PHL Fleet and plenty of the F/A's were not.

Hoping the Eagles tank in the playoffs.......

[post="233008"][/post]​

Savy managers take the "real world" into account. They know human nature and how some people are likely to react when they're threatened. They know the differences in regions and cities' workforces, their motivations, weaknesses, and potential for undesired behaviour. They have a firm knowledge of labor psychology and they've read case studies on failing companies and their labor relations so they don't make the same mistakes over and over. They don't rely on the corporate equivilent of Hail Mary passes. They rely on honesty, openness, and fair dealings with the people they employ.

If they suspect if employees are stealing from the company, they put in security cameras. If they suspect false sick leave calls, they put private detectives on it to make a case for firing that employee.

Savy managers would have changed their business model 2 years ago when it was plain to the most casual observer that it was terminally broken.

Savy managers don't pay CEOs 7 million dollar severance bonuses for 2 years of doing NOTHING.

And finally, savy managers are good leaders, not just work schedule makers, then go home. Savy managers are there during the critical times to make sure the operation runs smoothly . . . . and that especially includes weekends, and holidays, and times of inclement weather.