JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[AANOTOK]

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[Kev3188]

They won't give us an 8% match when all the other groups at the airline are making 5.5% outside of the Pilots.

We should face that more than likely reality.

They definitely won't if your NC doesn't put it on the table.

 

[Traymark]

 
 
And not all FAs are getting a the temporary 9% match, only those over a certain age.

 
 
 
Reading comprehension 700...
 
I stated, "for all those over 50", and to correct the record AGAIN, it's not a match, it's a 9.9% contribution.
 
Not sure about the Fleet age, but the M&R age is at least 90% over the age of 50.

 

[Tim Nelson]

They gave concessions, there own members said so, including JohnJohn and a member of their NC.
 
CARS jobs are a huge concession.
 
Medical, another huge concession.
 
And not all FAs are getting a the temporary 9% match, only those over a certain age.[/quotedude, you are a moron. Do you not understand that 75% of that group didnt have any scope or any protections and no contract? They went from no scope at all to all stations with 5 flights. Even if they did take concessions, they are still kicking our butt, and i pay dues.

They have redcoats but you clowns gave up 75 stations to vendors and then hammered our pt with health care and pension reductions.

Your guys suck balls bigtime.

 

[AANOTOK]

Ok, here is the MOU.
 
http://www.twu.org/twuapp/SLI-Agreement.pdf

 

[Tim Nelson]

They definitely won't if your NC doesn't put it on the table.

They didnt

 

[WeAAsles]

The CWA did not give concessions. They got boatloads of scope. They were non union with redcoats everywhere and no scope.Now they limited the red coats, got every station with 5 flights, grandfather rights, $30, many other things that we dont effing have, and i been paying dues for 17 years before 70% of them paid anything. Our iam/twu is rotten. Do your job and stop screwing around.

One minute you couldn't stand this agreement:
Now you think it was a great agreement:

Sybil. No doubt in my mind.

 

[WeAAsles]

They gave concessions, there own members said so, including JohnJohn and a member of their NC.
 
CARS jobs are a huge concession.
 
Medical, another huge concession.
 
And not all FAs are getting a the temporary 9% match, only those over a certain age.[/quotedude, you are a moron. Do you not understand that 75% of that group didnt have any scope or any protections and no contract? They went from no scope at all to all stations with 5 flights. Even if they did take concessions, they are still kicking our butt, and i pay dues.

They have redcoats but you clowns gave up 75 stations to vendors and then hammered our pt with health care and pension reductions.

Your guys suck balls bigtime.

Oh. Now he hates it again????

Sybil.

 

[WeAAsles]

They didnt

Not at that point yet.

Thank you.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Not at that point yet.
Thank you.

I knew i would get you to confirm that.
And thats the story, the union bosses have stalled on scope wages pension health care etc and havent even exchanged proposals on those items.

We will not get the same economic package that we would have got 6 months ago because the environment is changing.

Yes, the cwa got 8,000 more members under scope. Much better than at united where they been paying dues but our idiots capped scope at 28 stations and 35 flights. Morons.

 

[AANOTOK]

I knew i would get you to confirm that.
And thats the story, the union bosses have stalled on scope wages pension health care etc and havent even exchanged proposals on those items.

We will not get the same economic package that we would have got 6 months ago because the environment is changing.

Yes, the cwa got 8,000 more members under scope. Much better than at united where they been paying dues but our idiots capped scope at 28 stations and 35 flights. Morons.

I'm thinking if the update is any indication, the pull back has already started. Looks like to me, they are not wanting to treat all work groups equally.

 

[bob@las-AA]

Didn't the flight attendants have it staggered some what?

Weez, the over 50 are getting more of a match.

 

[Traymark]

Weez, the over 50 are getting more of a match.

 
 
 
Again, it's not a match, it's a contribution.

 

[WeAAsles]

Weez, the over 50 are getting more of a match.

And that ends in another year or two. It was only temporary. And the most junior were only getting 3% as I recall.

 

[AANOTOK]

Traymark, do you ha
 

 
 
 
Again, it's not a match, it's a contribution.

Traymark, do you have the specific language? I'm not disagreeing with you, It's just I thought the Pilots were the only ones getting the "contribution" and everyone else it was a match.