Jimmy Carter

KCFlyer said:
You left out the part where the Soviet Union lost. 
 
You didnt read the article did you buttercup?
 
History tells us that the Afghanistan fighters (Mujahideen) held their own against the Soviet invasion. Muslim extremists, including Osama Bin Laden, became warriors with great experience in strategic planning and sabotage. More importantly they now had confidence after defeating a Superpower. Sound familiar?

Also resulting from Carter's abandonment of the Shah was the Iran-Iraq war, which would have never occurred if the Shah remained in power. Over a half million people died during that war, including thousands of Iranians from Sadam Hussein chemical weapons. Hussein continued building his military to avoid future land attacks, which would become the cornerstone for his 1990 invasion of Kuwait. This of course became Desert Storm.
 
townpete said:
 
You didnt read the article did you buttercup?
 
History tells us that the Afghanistan fighters (Mujahideen) held their own against the Soviet invasion. Muslim extremists, including Osama Bin Laden, became warriors with great experience in strategic planning and sabotage. More importantly they now had confidence after defeating a Superpower. Sound familiar?

Also resulting from Carter's abandonment of the Shah was the Iran-Iraq war, which would have never occurred if the Shah remained in power. Over a half million people died during that war, including thousands of Iranians from Sadam Hussein chemical weapons. Hussein continued building his military to avoid future land attacks, which would become the cornerstone for his 1990 invasion of Kuwait. This of course became Desert Storm.
 
Remind me again....who supported this bin laden guy again?  Oh yeah....the same guy who sold arms to the people who held Americans hostage just 5 years earlier.  And while we're at it....who supplied Saddam with his chemical weapons?  
 
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Creator of the top secret FISA Court. ( for all you Patriot Act lovers)
Made CIA drop HUMINT in the field, which is/was the backbone of how and why the agency existed, to a reliance on satellite and other high tech means of intel gathering.
This was a big problem in the Clinton Bush days for accurate intel assessments in the ME.
Bush made comments early on regarding very few, if any assets on the ground in most ME countries and getting good intel.
 
Great President.
 
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eolesen said:
The watershed moment of the 20th century was not backing the Shah. Granted, the Shah was just a step or two removed from Saddam Hussein, but in allowing his overthrow and exile, it turned the Middle East into the crap pile it is today.

Had Carter treated the Shah as we've treated Israel and the Saudis, then Iran wouldn't be a theocracy today, nor would you have seen the explosion of Islamic militants becoming as strong as they were by the time 9/11 occurred.
What exactly could Carter have done to keep the Shah in power? Other than helping the Shah tighten the screws that mush tighter thus making Iran an even bigger powder keg.
 
townpete said:
Jimmy Carter Can Only Blame Himself
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2007/05/jimmy_carter_can_only_blame_hi.html
 
Carter's indecisiveness and incompetence became obvious to the rest of the World. The Soviet Union took great advantage of having Carter in the Oval Office. The Communist country invaded eastern neighbor Afghanistan, beginning an attempted power grab aimed at eventual Soviet takeovers in Iran and Pakistan. Carter's response to the invasion of Afghanistan was the U.S. boycott of the 1980 Olympic games held in Moscow. Need I say anymore?[/size]
Wow, the ignorance in that blog post is amazing.
 

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