July - US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Move2CLT]

Kinda like the elected leaders having secret trips to Tempe the first week in office?

Or to Dallas...

 

[Move2CLT]

That's exactly what should happen in that case. And I expect my PHL reps (ALL THREE) to do exactly the same thing. If the protections are not there, the MOU should die at the BPR level before even offering it to the membership. The "let my daddy vote" crowd can go stick it!

Don't trust your fellow easties?

 

[Move2CLT]

Could not agree more. Hummell is a sell out. Talked to Dorio Friday. Unbelievable

Mr "I'm bitter'?

Ya, great source to go to. He did such an outstanding job all those years he was on the NAC.

 

[EastCheats]

Or to Dallas...

Shhh....You don't want to disclose too much info. Keep em guessing.

 

[Freighterguynow]

Oh crap! You mean that President Hummel was required to get Bill McKee's permission to travel to PHX (the largest pilot base)? How does that differ from Cleary's secret lawsuits that were filed BEFORE the board was advised?

People in glass houses......

Yes indeed. A lesson you will learn if AMR does the buying.

Can't help you don't see the difference between a visit to Tempe and one the pilot base in PHX.

Please show any support of mine over the lawsuits you speak of.

 

[signals]

Mr "I'm bitter'?

Ya, great source to go to. He did such an outstanding job all those years he was on the NAC.

Are you in CLT, yet? If not, change your lying name!

Just a thought, Capt. Dolittle, don't tread on me or I'll defacate on you. Fair Warning!!! 😛

 

[Ames]

Who said we "liked" the award? The number 1 AWA pilot (now retired) was placed permanently behind the top 517. Every AWA pilot lost some percentage of his/her relative seniority. The AWA pilot group originally thought that since the AAA pilot group was demanding DOH, that we should in turn demand a staple job. We then decided to take a more reasonable tact: Relative seniority. The Arbitrator thought that was a great start, and warned the AAA MC that DOH would NOT be delivered under an arbitration.

We simply looked at the delivered seniority list and said "Well, I agreed to the process as being a member of the union. So be it. Let's move on to get a contract that we can all live with."

Seejay, I get that the junior AAA pilots think that the Nicolau senority list is "unfair". All attempts (and then some) were employed to make sure that there was a way to revisit the list's tenets. The list was then delivered to the CEO of the company, and the company repaid both ALPA MEC's the funds promised to cover the process.

The biggest problem that I have with where we are is this: The AWA pilot group is being forced to help fund (via dues) the DOH chase. If the AAA pilots wanted to challenge this fairly they should have fired up some sort of assessment like the PIC. That would have at least shown some integrity.

Regards,
CB

Hey, who the hell do you think you are injecting facts into this forum? Everyone knows that eastholes hate facts.

 

[jetjok1]

Who said we "liked" the award? The number 1 AWA pilot (now retired) was placed permanently behind the top 517. Every AWA pilot lost some percentage of his/her relative seniority. The AWA pilot group originally thought that since the AAA pilot group was demanding DOH, that we should in turn demand a staple job. We then decided to take a more reasonable tact: Relative seniority. The Arbitrator thought that was a great start, and warned the AAA MC that DOH would NOT be delivered under an arbitration.

We simply looked at the delivered seniority list and said "Well, I agreed to the process as being a member of the union. So be it. Let's move on to get a contract that we can all live with."

Seejay, I get that the junior AAA pilots think that the Nicolau senority list is "unfair". All attempts (and then some) were employed to make sure that there was a way to revisit the list's tenets. The list was then delivered to the CEO of the company, and the company repaid both ALPA MEC's the funds promised to cover the process.

The biggest problem that I have with where we are is this: The AWA pilot group is being forced to help fund (via dues) the DOH chase. If the AAA pilots wanted to challenge this fairly they should have fired up some sort of assessment like the PIC. That would have at least shown some integrity.

Regards,
CB

Agreed

 

[Move2CLT]

Are you in CLT, yet? If not, change your lying name!

Just a thought, Capt. Dolittle, don't tread on me or I'll defacate on you. Fair Warning!!! 😛

You get your science homework done?

 

[Barrister]

Who said we "liked" the award? The number 1 AWA pilot (now retired) was placed permanently behind the top 517. Every AWA pilot lost some percentage of his/her relative seniority. The AWA pilot group originally thought that since the AAA pilot group was demanding DOH, that we should in turn demand a staple job. We then decided to take a more reasonable tact: Relative seniority. The Arbitrator thought that was a great start, and warned the AAA MC that DOH would NOT be delivered under an arbitration.

We simply looked at the delivered seniority list and said "Well, I agreed to the process as being a member of the union. So be it. Let's move on to get a contract that we can all live with."

Seejay, I get that the junior AAA pilots think that the Nicolau senority list is "unfair". All attempts (and then some) were employed to make sure that there was a way to revisit the list's tenets. The list was then delivered to the CEO of the company, and the company repaid both ALPA MEC's the funds promised to cover the process.

The biggest problem that I have with where we are is this: The AWA pilot group is being forced to help fund (via dues) the DOH chase. If the AAA pilots wanted to challenge this fairly they should have fired up some sort of assessment like the PIC. That would have at least shown some integrity.

Regards,
CB

Yea......thanks for supporting pay parity too!!!! GMAFB

NICDOA
NPJB

 

[Move2CLT]

Yea......thanks for supporting pay parity too!!!! GMAFB

NICDOA
NPJB

Pay parity was yours to get on your own.

How is it you wanted us to support pay parity? By tanking the merger?

LMAO and GMAFB

Nic is it.

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

Yea......thanks for supporting pay parity too!!!! GMAFB

NICDOA
NPJB

I was for pay parity in JNC where we all agreed it would be. You decided to try and submit us after the award. You didn't deal fairly with me, and then wonder why I 'don't support' pay parity? First of all , I do support pay parity, but not in the about face way you reframed the argument. I didn't choose this route.

When you chose the beat the west into submission route, did you even give any of the ramifications a second thought?

 

[flyer63]

Dorio wants nothing but the best for this pilot group. He was right on loa 84' and he is right now,

Give it a break the bpr knows exactly what is in this pos mou

 

[flyer63]

Mr "I'm bitter'?

Ya, great source to go to. He did such an outstanding job all those years he was on the NAC.

Your the one that wants us to agree to 176 an hour so you can move to clt. So why don't you stfu

 

[traderjake]

That's exactly what should happen in that case. And I expect my PHL reps (ALL THREE) to do exactly the same thing. If the protections are not there, the MOU should die at the BPR level before even offering it to the membership. The "let my daddy vote" crowd can go stick it!

So you agree with the MEC not allowing a vote on the pension termination because the membership can't be trusted to do the right thing.