July - US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Move2CLT]

Boy, if we are flying the 190's east you will be on the street, talk about panic.

LMAO!!

Another prediction luv? Did you forget how badly you suck with your predictions?

Back to your chicken.

 

[cleardirect]

Boy, if we are flying the 190's east you will be on the street, talk about panic.

Try not to avoid the question.

You guys have said you are getting DOH. Why or how will you be flying 190's with that seniority?

Figured out DOH is not going to happen?

 

[Phoenix]

. Anyone want to blame ALPA somehow for this behavior or is this just east pilots acting like east pilots?

Really? Ignoring 880 replacement jets and you want to banter about labels? If mother Theresa came back from the dead and told you to ignore 880 RJs would you agree?

 

[Phoenix]

Try not to avoid the question.

You guys have said you are getting DOH. Why or how will you be flying 190's with that seniority?

Figured out DOH is not going to happen?

You do the math. Block hour protection, sans type protection, and 880 RJs. What is to stop AA a transfer of all mainline jets to current AA and all West and East pilots becoming the new Comair of the next generation of outsourcing by another name.

The pilots on 880 RJs aren't gonna be paid 175$ an hour, but don't worry with that many cockpits to fill every current East and West pilot can have one.

The company would never do that would they? If you are sure they won't then why the opposition to having them sign their name to it?

 

[cleardirect]

Really? Ignoring 880 replacement jets and you want to banter about labels? If mother Theresa came back from the dead and told you to ignore 880 RJs would you agree?

Wow dude. Did you hurt yourself changing subjects like that?

I am talking about the behavior of the CLT and PHL reps during the BPR.

If you are so concerned about 880 RJ should you not be slamming your reps for childish and distracting behavior and telling them to get to work? Are they and you more concerned about attacking the not the cleary crown than taking care of business?

 

[cleardirect]

You do the math. Block hour protection, sans type protection, and 880 RJs. What is to stop AA a transfer of all mainline jets to current AA and all West and East pilots becoming the new Comair of the next generation of outsourcing by another name.

The pilots on 880 RJs aren't gonna be paid 175$ an hour, but don't worry with that many cockpits to fill every current East and West pilot can have one.

The company would never do that would they? If you are sure they won't then why the opposition to having them sign their name to it?

My, my you guys do have furtile little fantasies.

So you think that the APA with a DFR responsibility will shift all mainline flying to AA and place all east and west pilots in the lower paid aircraft just because they can. Ignoring any seniority list.

Truly evil thoughts you guys have. Just because you guys are trying to steal from the west does not mean that the rest of the world thinks the way you guys do.

 

[Phoenix]

Wow dude. Did you hurt yourself changing subjects like that?

I am talking about the behavior of the CLT and PHL reps during the BPR.

If you are so concerned about 880 RJ should you not be slamming your reps for childish and distracting behavior and telling them to get to work? Are they and you more concerned about attacking the not the cleary crown than taking care of business?

You ignore 880 RJs and want to impugn anyone who asks if we should care about scope. We know all about your blind rage. You were more entertaining with a yellow raincoat.

 

[Phoenix]

My, my you guys do have furtile little fantasies.

So you think that the APA with a DFR responsibility will shift all mainline flying to AA and place all east and west pilots in the lower paid aircraft just because they can. Ignoring any seniority list.

Truly evil thoughts you guys have. Just because you guys are trying to steal from the west does not mean that the rest of the world thinks the way you guys do.

How could you understand? You never had scope. AWA was part of the reason scope was invented.

 

[Move2CLT]

How could you understand? You never had scope. AWA was part of the reason scope was invented.

No boo boo, it wasn't.

Eagle was.

 

[cleardirect]

How could you understand? You never had scope. AWA was part of the reason scope was invented.

If you guys have such a strong scope clause why do you have more RJ's flying in your system than we do?

You may want to go back and read the T/A 8 transcripts or opinion. The west has tighter scope than the east.

Take the time to educate yourself.

The opinion states that the east was allowed 315 Rj's. The west allowed 50 RJ's.

So you can take your BS west had no scope and roll it up real tight and stick up your 6. The east never lets facts get in the way of a good lie.

the operating stats for the bases.

flight per day RJ% Mainline RJ
CLT 548 51% 268 280
PHL 411 51% 201 210
DCA 172 42% 100 72
PHX 262 32% 178 84

Now talk to me about scope. Out of the hubs 562 per day compared to west 84 RJ flights.

 

[Phoenix]

If you guys have such a strong scope clause why do you have more RJ's flying in your system than we do?

You may want to go back and read the T/A 8 transcripts or opinion. The west has tighter scope than the east.

Take the time to educate yourself.

The opinion states that the east was allowed 315 Rj's. The west allowed 50 RJ's.

So you can take your BS west had no scope and roll it up real tight and stick up your 6. The east never lets facts get in the way of a good lie.

the operating stats for the bases.

flight per day RJ% Mainline RJ
CLT 548 51% 268 280
PHL 411 51% 201 210
DCA 172 42% 100 72
PHX 262 32% 178 84

Now talk to me about scope. Out of the hubs 562 per day compared to west 84 RJ flights.

I am glad to see you can be pationate about scope. You had me convinced for awhile that you are totally brain dead, flat line, comitose!

Now explain why you are still brain dead about 880 new 90 seat RJs. Try to duplicate the passion.

 

[cleardirect]

I am glad to see you can be pationate about scope. You had me convinced for awhile that you are totally brain dead, flat line, comitose!

Now explain why you are still brain dead about 880 new 90 seat RJs. Try to duplicate the passion.

OK! I give. You are convinced you will be flying an RJ so be it. It will be someone else's fault find your favor boogie man to blame.

Since you are convinced you will be flying 90 seat why not accept the Nicolau and get a contract before the merger, get some US Airways pilot unity and try to stop it? But you seem willing to kill not only your career but everyone elses because the Nicolau offends you.

 

[Phoenix]

OK! I give. You are convinced you will be flying an RJ so be it. It will be someone else's fault find your favor boogie man to blame.

Since you are convinced you will be flying 90 seat why not accept the Nicolau and get a contract before the merger, get some US Airways pilot unity and try to stop it? But you seem willing to kill not only your career but everyone elses because the Nicolau offends you.

Epic fail. The defibrillator can't restore a heart beat. You haven't even acknowledged that the term sheet has 880 90-seat RJs. Not so mich as a peep.

Does that mean you are in favor of them?

 

[cleardirect]

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[cleardirect]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

the scope section that I see on the term sheet allows between 50-88 seats 255 aircraft or 50% of mainline. Anything from 88-118 is a mainline group I aircraft.

Total between AA and LCC there are 950 mainline aircraft. Think it through, I know it might hurt your head. Why would Parker get rid of 800 big aircraft in order to fly 90 seat airplanes? Maybe you think he is going to add 880 90 seat to the total. For a mainline count of 1830 aircraft. You know why you go off half cocked and emotional fantasies can get out of control.

How the hell do you come up with 880 90 seat RJ's?

You guys are in a #### house panic without facts. But this is nothing new.

It does not matter if I favor them or not. Because of the actions of usapa and Cleary the US Airways pilots have no say in the deal. we have been cut out. But just like you pension, a vote yes or no has no effect. You can wish all day but it does not matter.

But back to my original point. Why did CLT and PHL walk out of the BPR meeting because they did not get their way? Is that going to do anything to help your panic over the RJ issue?