July - US Pilots Labor Discussion

[nic4us]

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   OK guys, still think I am crying wolf? This is the most serious attack on your career in your entire life. We are now asking that every pilot publish this on every web board in the system to make all pilots aware of what Hummel and his cohorts are doing. The 9[sup]th[/sup] circuit judge also needs this information – not from any of us but from a seasoned attorney who is very familiar with the RLA. I have received phone calls from Steve Crimi, Paul Dorio and others who wish to remain anonymous for now. The information that I have been talking about is 100% true – you are about to get screwed in a way that makes Midatlantic look like Childs play.
   
   The cover? How’s this sound? The protections will be in place until such time as the pilots are able to bid for each others equipment. A single carrier contract will provide that in short order. Hummel and his cohorts are giving away your scope protection and including the NIC. ‘A contract at any price’ The court’s decision will not matter when both parties agree. His most recent sneaky maneuver is that he doesn’t want YOU to be able to even vote on it. He wants to call it an MOU and ram it down your throat.
   
   Shame on you if you’ve been fooled by him and shame on the coalition for lying to you while jumping in bed with Hummel. The bump in pay that you may or may not see will certainly cost you your career.
   
   The following is reprinted with permission of the author
   
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The 9[sup]th[/sup] circuit judge also needs this information – not from any of us but from a seasoned attorney who is very familiar with the RLA. I have received phone calls from Steve Crimi, Paul Dorio and others who wish to remain anonymous for now. The information that I have been talking about is 100% true – you are about to get screwed in a way that makes Midatlantic look like Childs play.

Any guesses WTF this guy is whining about?

The 9th needs to know what and why.

Also, he claims just the opposite of what Luv9 just said about DOH. Says it will be Nic and no scope.

Crimi as a character reference...now that right there is scaborific.

Got anything from a reliable source Luv,,,,,um,,I am guessing not. Oh, and still nobody paying any attention to the scabs who think the 9th green lighted usapa's seniority theft plan.

 

[cleardirect]

Then Clear should read all of this. http://www.operation...aration-of-war/

More FUD. God you guys are worse than a bunch of teen age girls.

I don't hear emotional panic from the APA about this. Do you? After 7 years of dealing with you chicken littles I will believe the American boys before I believe east pilots. We have all seen how you negotiate and twist facts, logic and attack anyone that does not agree with you.

Besides I thought you guys had the best scope clause in the business. Oh that's right turns out you don't.

Have not heard much about change of control for awhile. You guys were so sure about that too.

This all sounds to me like spreading fear and attacking Hummel. I bet if Cleary or McKee were president none of you scaredy cats would be saying a word. DOH should take care of all of this for you guys right? Could it be that the APA has agreed to the Nicolau and that is what this panic is all about?

 

[Move2CLT]

This one sums up the stupidity of the westerners. Cleardirect has no clue about scope either.

Stupidity of the westerners?

How's your pension, LOA93', and lack of pay parity going for you their genius?

LMAO.

 

[Move2CLT]

Portale and Crimi - now there's a pair of douce bags.

Let's get that out to every web board in the system.

 

[nic4us]

Just because your group and Luvn737 s had no clue about scope doesn t mean a thing. Cleardirect is absolutely the dumbest one with regard to scope. You better listen up. CleaRedirect will never come back after the scope debacle goes down.

Hey genius...what happened to the change of control language in the last merger.

I didn't tell Pi about this one. When asked about COC in a crew news session, Parker says, he read it, and it would not apply in the AMR situation because...and I quote.."we are buying them"....but look at the last merger..who is in control, and why is the east still on LOA93?

Now tell me again who has no clue regarding scope?

PS.......oh, never mind, your too stupid to waste any more time on.

 

[nic4us]

Portale and Crimi - now there's a pair of douce bags.

Let's get that out to every web board in the system.

don't forget to tell the 9th.

 

[A320 Driver]

After todays conference call nothing but DOH will be considered.

Here we go again...

 

[Move2CLT]

Here we go again...

Keep trying. LMAO.

 

[A320 Driver]

Yes Pollock gave away my pension in the middle of the night with no vote we all know that now,yes I am pretty senior, however this scope issue is a big one to east,west and the APA, geez even the F/A's were smart enough to turn their deal down because of scope. Read the link.

Ask McKee why they didn't freeze the pension prior to ERISA kicking in. He was CLT MEC rep at the time. Davis was the PIT rep.

 

[cleardirect]

Ask McKee why they didn't freeze the pension prior to ERISA kicking in. He was CLT MEC rep at the time. Davis was the PIT rep.

involuntarily terminated our plan whether we liked it or not.

But hey keep paying the assessment. The pension investigation committee will get to the bottom of it.

McKee hates ALPA but he was right there in the middle of it. Now he is right there in the middle of usapa. But things are different right?

 

[A320 Driver]

involuntarily terminated our plan whether we liked it or not.

But hey keep paying the assessment. The pension investigation committee will get to the bottom of it.

McKee hates ALPA but he was right there in the middle of it. Now he is right there in the middle of usapa. But things are different right?

Wanna buy a bridge?

 

[traderjake]

Ask McKee why they didn't freeze the pension prior to ERISA kicking in. He was CLT MEC rep at the time. Davis was the PIT rep.

I know the answer............Davis got his lump sum.

 

[cleardirect]

Wanna buy a bridge?

Such a deal for you I have. On one else will I give this deal to. I know you lost hundreds of thousands of dollars. But if you sent me a couple thousand more I can get it back for you and send people to jail. Justice will be had.

Damn sounds like a an internet scam to me. Oh wait it is usapa. Same thing.

 

[Move2CLT]

Wanna buy a bridge?

Sounds like you've got a few to sell. Are those the same one's you guys bought a while back?

 

[Move2CLT]

But hey keep paying the assessment. The pension investigation committee will get to the bottom of it.

Isn't this their third try at getting to the bottom of it?