July - US Pilots Labor Discussion

[luvn737s]

ALPA gave away every time the company came calling (who can blame the company for calling). ALPA gave you 5 years of grid lock through the age 65 rule.

Let's examine this, shall we? What demographic would profit the most from a change in the Age 60 rule? Answer -an aging group with no retirement and BK wages (LOA93). Sound like anyone you know?

The senior guys got your back, right?

 

[luvthe9]

Wait till you see your new definition of Forward. It means bankrolling APA s retirement plan, while you got nothing. Nice. If that is moving past gridlock, you just got T boned by an APA semi. Your group is willing to take the management hits time and again. This one will be the new low. You will be the laughingstock of the industry. Your earnings blew DAL s away, and they get a huge raise. You will wait six years, and bankroll the APA. Unbelievable.
Spineless is a good word for it.

You are spot on this one, I can't wait to see how low this group will go this time we just don't ever learn.

 

[Move2CLT]

Wait till you see your new definition of Forward. It means bankrolling APA s retirement plan, while you got nothing. Nice. If that is moving past gridlock, you just got T boned by an APA semi. Your group is willing to take the management hits time and again. This one will be the new low. You will be the laughingstock of the industry. Your earnings blew DAL s away, and they get a huge raise. You will wait six years, and bankroll the APA. Unbelievable.
Spineless is a good word for it.

Ya, Claxon, that seems to be your sides MO. You tend to squander opportunity by overreaching and end up with something far worse than you were offered.

You history shows this and that makes it happening again an inevitability. You chose LOA 93 over binding arbitration and complain about your choice.

Get over it.

 

[Move2CLT]

You are spot on this one, I can't wait to see how low this group will go this time we just don't ever learn.

Luv, you thoughts and third chin make me laugh.

You went low by choosing LOA 93 over binding arbitration and bragged about it. Heck, most of you eastholios even spit out the drivel of being used to living on LOA 93 and not really being bothered by it.

So why do you complain now?

You've made your bed by being parked and enjoined and now are merely a side-show in this merger.

This is what you wanted instead of the Nic and now you're living with your choice.

So STFU and go back to your chicken.

 

[Move2CLT]

Luv, you thoughts and third chin make me laugh.

You went low by choosing LOA 93 over binding arbitration and bragged about it. Heck, most of you eastholios even spit out the drivel of being used to living on LOA 93 and not really being bothered by it.

So why do you complain now?

You've made your bed by being parked and enjoined and now are merely a side-show in this merger.

This is what you wanted instead of the Nic and now you're living with your choice.

So STFU and go back to your chicken.

P.S. I appreciate your avatar. We've got to make sure everyone knows what an eastie that takes up-skirt shots of under-aged girls looks like.

 

[EastCheats]

I loved that big orange bag tag I saw in CLT. Bye Bye USAPA.

East crew. 😀

 

[luvthe9]

I loved that big orange bag tag I saw in CLT. Bye Bye USAPA.

East crew. 😀

I loved talking to Teresa during the 1 800 KEEP ALPA campaign. I loved the West bag tags too, Keep ALPA. Unlike Mykala,unlike Leonidas, we stuck that landing good.........

 

[Claxon]

Let's examine this, shall we? What demographic would profit the most from a change in the Age 60 rule? Answer -an aging group with no retirement and BK wages (LOA93). Sound like anyone you know?

The senior guys got your back, right?

The western group conveniently forgets the eastern has a PBGC retirement, around 44k a year. 10 years is $440,000.00 20 years of it is $880,000.00 Eight hundred and eighty thousand. Forgot that didn't you? What have you got? Other than what the eastern group got you. Nothing. Nice try. The only job Mov2 will get in CLT is a job sweeping the floor in Bojangles or cleaning the porcelain palace before the movement in CLT.

 

[EastCheats]

I loved talking to Teresa during the 1 800 KEEP ALPA campaign. I loved the West bag tags too, Keep ALPA. Unlike Mykala,unlike Leonidas, we stuck that landing good.........

Serious question, who's behind the new bag-tag campaign?

 

[luvthe9]

Serious question, who's behind the new bag-tag campaign?

Probably Leonidas. Who else stirs up needless trouble. I have yet to see one.

 

[cleardirect]

Probably Leonidas. Who else stirs up needless trouble. I have yet to see one.

You really are to stupid to be an effective Cleary supporter and east pilot. You have to be very junior. Your emotions are clouding your thinking.

Did you miss the part about being an east crew having the bag tag?

So now east pilots are agreeing with leonidas?

 

[Zone5]

What you east guys just don't get is nobody wants your job.

Great! Should be no problem agreeing to a fence around any East pilot who want's to stay where they are, right? Which by the way, is exactly how it went down in the Piedmont merger, as long as I stayed where I was, no former Piedmont pilot could displace me. It worked then and would work now. Do you see a problem with that?

Then again back in the day, there was a separate bid position as a block holder, which enabled me to hold a block as long as I stayed in the base and equipment where I was at the merger. You good with that? If so (mister "I don't want your job") so am I.


seajay

 

[BoeingBoy]

Great! Should be no problem agreeing to a fence around any East pilot who want's to stay where they are, right?

So you're happy to be fenced into whatever position you held in May 2005? That's effectively what Nic did - you can't be displaced by a west pilot who held a lower position in 2005.

Another Nic convert...

Jim

 

[cleardirect]

Great! Should be no problem agreeing to a fence around any East pilot who want's to stay where they are, right? Which by the way, is exactly how it went down in the Piedmont merger, as long as I stayed where I was, no former Piedmont pilot could displace me. It worked then and would work now. Do you see a problem with that?

Then again back in the day, there was a separate bid position as a block holder, which enabled me to hold a block as long as I stayed in the base and equipment where I was at the merger. You good with that? If so (mister "I don't want your job") so am I.


seajay

No problem. If you are an F/O you stay as an F/O.

Where you guys have overreached is that all you F/O's want to be captains ahead of west pilots.

 

[traderjake]

Which by the way, is exactly how it went down in the Piedmont merger, as long as I stayed where I was, no former Piedmont pilot could displace me. It worked then and would work now.

It was Piedmont Captains that lost their jobs to USAir F/Os.