June - US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Move2CLT]

"we do have the equivalent of a civil rights movement going on here." Wow!...I'm honestly amazed by that observation/claim...in that ANYONE could even make it regarding this comparatively petty squabble.

And NOW folks!...The moment we've all been waiting for! The Academy Award for Most Utterly Astounding Delusions of Grandeur goes to...The "Spartans"! 😉

"Is it "normal" to feign intelligence through the use af arcane syntax?"

Yes and eastus is very consistent at it.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Ignore this ole fool

No answer I see...par for the course....

Jim

 

[Move2CLT]

"...acknowledges the west with his talk of a three way list..."

Consider that observation just a wee bit further.

Ummmmm, no. There's no reason to.

Its pretty black and white for everybody outside the east. No need to complicate things like you guys are trying to do.

Maybe you should simplify. Mediation -> Artbitration -> Award

See?

 

[Move2CLT]

Maybe you and Munn can get a pedicure together.

Maybe you and eastus can put together a "Nic is sorta gone" party. That MDA decision is sure to blow the west's chances right out of the water, right?

How'd that LOA93 victory party go? Did you get alot of easties to show up?

 

[A320 Driver]

There you go.

USAPA is not a democracy but an oligarchy and we do have the equivalent of a civil rights movement going on here.

The APA will have the same duty to represent ALL of us as FAIRLY as they do their current members.

So I have a DFR because I can't have my way? "FAIRLY" is strickly a point of view, NOT an obligation to give you your way because you stomp your feet.

Driver...

 

[EastUS1]

"Is it "normal" to feign intelligence through the use af arcane syntax?"

Yes and eastus is very consistent at it.

It's amusing that you so easily find it to be "arcane". That being your stated case; little need exists to address "feign intelligence" 😉

 

[fodase]

So I have a DFR because I can't have my way? "FAIRLY" is strickly a point of view, NOT an obligation to give you your way because you stomp your feet.

Driver...

Yep, stomping your feet is just like disregarding a signed agreement. You scabs are simply amazing.

 

[BoeingBoy]

"FAIRLY" is strickly a point of view, NOT an obligation to give you your way because you stomp your feet.

Not according to some easties. They claim absolute knowlege of "fair" and stomp their feet if they don't get it. What you say is right, but it works both ways and each side has those that don't accept it. However, it was the east that changed CBAs to get their definition of fair, not the west. If was the east that used it's majority status against the west, not the other way around.

Jim

 

[EastUS1]

So I have a DFR because I can't have my way? "FAIRLY" is strickly a point of view, NOT an obligation to give you your way because you stomp your feet.

Indeed.

 

[EastUS1]

However, it was the east that changed CBAs to get their definition of fair, not the west. If was the east that used it's majority status against the west, not the other way around.

Ah!....so...it's only morally acceptable for a minority to seek redress from perceived injustice? No majority should have those rights as well...?

A most "interesting" little world view you have there.....

 

[BoeingBoy]

Nice of you to agree since it's been the east that hasn't just stomped their feet but taken concrete steps to impose it's point of view on what is "fair" on the west for 5 years and counting...

All the west had done is try to get the east to live up to it's agreement.

Jim

PS - my point, which you ignored, is that the east did more than stomp it's feet. You regularly slam the west for fighting for what was agreed to, but claim the right to not abide by the agreements the east made. If the majority considers it "morally acceptable" to use it's majority status to get it's way by ignoring agreements it made, the minority has every right to fight that. Remember that you responded to 320's post about fair being an opinion with "indeed", so should the majority be allowed to impose it's opinion of fair on the minority, using a union that is required to represent both sides to accomplish it?

By way of extreme example, if my point of view is that Joe Blow should be killed does that give me the right to hire someone to kill Joe? After all, I can claim the right to address perceived wrongs and I percieve Joe as being one of those wrongs....your words....

Jim

 

[EastUS1]

All the west had done is try to get the east to live up to it's agreement.

Sniffle...I feel your pain...those poor, abused, helpless little babies...just continuously suffering...and all becasue they can't immediately throw some then-newly-hired guy ahead of an east pilot with then a decade and a half of continuous service. It IS indeed, a complete tragedy worthy of the Bard's writings...sniffle yet again 😉

"Tissue"? 😉

PS: Your "PS" is equally and entirely yet more BS. I've zero objection to the west people taking whatever legal recourse is open to them. YOU, on the other hand, are clearly disposed to believe that the east people should have no such, similar notions...Again; a most "interesting" and indeed "little" world view you have....

 

[HPearlyretiree]

Sniffle...I feel your pain...those poor, abused, helpless little babies...just continuously suffering...and all becasue they can't immediately throw some then-newly-hired guy ahead of an east pilot with a decade and a half of continuous service. It IS indeed, a complete tragedy worthy of the Bard's writings...sniffle yet again 😉

"Tissue"? 😉

PS: Your "PS" is equally and entirely yet more BS. I've zero objection to the west people taking whatever legal recourse is open to them. YOU, on the other hand, are clearly disposed to believe that the east people should have no such, similar notions...Again; a most "interesting" and indeed "little" world view you have....

What part of Binding Arbitration do you not understand? The Binding part, or the Arbitration part?

 

[EastUS1]

What part of Bindin Arbitration do you not understand? The Binding part, or the Arbitration part?

Ummm...perhaps the "Bindin" part? 😉 What part of "mindless internet troll/perverse "groupie", who couldn't qualify to be a chock" don't you understand? 😉

 

[Move2CLT]

"FAIRLY" is strickly a point of view, NOT an obligation to give you your way because you stomp your feet.

Driver...

Said the east guy.

Pot, kettle, etc, etc.