June - US Pilots Labor Discussion

[BoeingBoy]

Snapshot today. How many lists do you see in use? Time will tell.

Are you claiming that the US/HP merger never happened? That an an arbitrator never produced a single list per union policy and agreement of both east and west per the requirments of the TA? That such list wasn't accepted by Parker on behalf of the company? Otherwise the number of lists in use today is irrevelent.

Jim

 

[Phoenix]

Noooooot ripe...

There is a foundational premise to that conclusion. Three cheers to anyone who can admit it.

 

[BoeingBoy]

That's what page after page of rationale was all about...should we stop the presses for those that don't get that. Or maybe beat it into those that think very selective snippits from all those pages - like "wide range of..." - are all that was said?

Jim

 

[EastUS1]

......evidently you can't respect what others do for a living.

But, one thing I know, when you make an agreement that is binding, you can't weenie out of it by making up a new union out of spite.

1) Yet another fine bit of "Projection" on your part I'm afraid 😉 While it's most very certainly the case that I'm entirely unable to afford you the awe and reverence you clearly feel yourself entitiled to, (and in fact, seem to generously self-bestow, without ANY need for outside assistance) there are a great many that I do indeed respect: Healers, warriors, inventors, researchers, capable trades people,...well....pretty much any and all that directly benefit society through their knowledge, imagination, skills and actions. In full fairness; perhaps I'm burdened with a very unfair prejudice, based upon a multi-generational military background, wherein "paper pushers" was a term of contempt..

2) You may well be right, or not. Time will tell...Five years and counting so far though 😉

 

[dca319]

Dupe

 

[BoeingBoy]

In full fairness; perhaps I'm burdened with a very unfair prejudice, based upon a multi-generational military background, wherein "paper pushers" was a term of contempt..

Yes, you are so burdened. It's just a shame that you sorta recognize the problem you have but seem to revel in it. In my experience most who develop that sense of "It's all about meee" lose it pretty quickly after leaving active duty where many are faced with being "paper pushers" themselves. Of course, I come from a generation that experienced Vietnam winding down where one couldn't automatically expect to move from a military cockpit to a civilian cockpit. The early/mid-70's saw many more pilots seeking jobs with an airline than there were jobs so lost that "God complex" rather quickly when faced with civilian reality.

Jim

 

[HPearlyretiree]

1) Yet another fine bit of "Projection" on your part I'm afraid 😉 While it's most very certainly the case that I'm entirely unable to afford you the awe and reverence you clearly feel yourself entitiled to, (and in fact, seem to generously self-bestow, without ANY need for outside assistance) there are a great many that I do indeed respect: Healers, warriors, inventors, researchers, capable trades people,...well....pretty much any and all that directly benefit society through their knowledge, imagination, skills and actions. In full fairness; perhaps I'm burdened with a very unfair prejudice, based upon a multi-generational military background, wherein "paper pushers" was a term of contempt..

2) You may well be right, or not. Time will tell...Five years and counting so far though 😉

I don't ask for any awe and reverence, I respect your job, you are unable of respecting others, maybe its a lack of class or maturity on your part.

But...you have still never gotten to the part about the binding arbitration that your union (meaning you, by proxy) agreed to, then attempted to weenie out of. Don't you think that signing an agreement that is legally binding, and then honoring that is important?

Hypocrisy....you are soaking in it.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Says the guy that's right up there with MM and Luvthe9...LOL You have no idea what cockpits I've strappen into.

Jim

 

[EastUS1]

Says the guy that's right up there with MM and Luvthe9...LOL You have no idea what cockpits I've strappen into.

Jim

That's too far past being just plain pathetic to comment further on.

 

[EastUS1]

I don't ask for any awe and reverence, I respect your job, you are unable of respecting others, maybe its a lack of class or maturity on your part.

"you are unable of respecting others" By no means. The case is that I find it entirely reasonable to perceive you to be unworthy of any excessive "respect". That's all.

Try your BS: "maybe its a lack of class or maturity on your part" or "weenie" on underlings you can "heroically" fire. Don't waste your efforts here 😉

PS: You're not at all bashful when touting your "education"...Was basic english ever a part of that process? "you are unable of respecting others"...? 😉

 

[BoeingBoy]

That's too far past being just plain pathetic to comment further on.

Translation - "My ego won't let me admit that I might be wrong so all I can do is attack..." 😛

 

[BoeingBoy]

It's funny watching you be unable to respond except with insults and name calling....

Jim

 

[EastUS1]

.... to not even the slightest shread of respect....

Such necessarily attends to one making false claims/representations of themself.....

No need for additional response, as I'd hear it only as the "laughter" of a mindless hyena.

 

[BoeingBoy]

I'll put that down to "knowing little but saying a lot"...

Jim

 

[EastUS1]

I'll put that down to "knowing little but saying a lot"...

Jim

BoeingBoy: "I come from a generation that experienced Vietnam winding down where one couldn't automatically expect to move from a military cockpit to a civilian cockpit." If that's not tacit association with actually BEING such a pilot...well....live with yourself as you best can. You disgust me.