June - US Pilots Labor Discussion

[prechilill]

Fodase, maybe but if they are it won't matter. They may as well be gone.

OMG, pray tell then... What becomes of the "gold standard" when APA takes over?
How will this industry function without a gold standard, without USAPA???
Horrible! Those greedy AMR pilots are peeing in the easties cereal!

 

[Move2CLT]

You are one weak indvidual, guys like you are why we are in this situation today. You know what, lets all take a huge pay cut to help get this deal done, None of you are as good as a Delta pilot and you pay should reflect it. Myself, I could care less if this merge goes through or not.

LMAO. More east on east sniping!!! Way to turn on your own luv.

You didn't answer his question luv - what are you going to do if Parker says "no"?

You're in your situation because of emotional guys like you who wear stupid little lanyards and pull stupid little stunts that end up getting the entire pilot group enjoined.

And then you beat your fists on the table demanding everything only to get parked indefinitely.

Ya, guys like you are so effective.

Please, do us a favor and give your "bravado" a rest. Its now become irritating.

At least dca has some common sense and logic and sees the situation for what it is.

 

[cleardirect]

I hope that's all!!! Wish we could. He sure made the AMR boys look stupid, told Bates not to go behind our back and work eith Parker which they did, why was the deal done so fast well because they knew what was coming with Delta, yes I would love to have him back.

So you are saying that Cleary talked to APA and knew about the merger deal. Yet he did not tell the BPR or the pilots. But McKee and the other Cleary fans were screaming to know what Hummel knew. Which it turns out was nothing. Where is your demand that Cleary be flogged for withholding info?

Keep following Cleary right over the cliff.

 

[Move2CLT]

Well, I guess we have to save a lot of west jobs since all those "retirements" are coming from the east, nice windfall huh? your welcome.

Actually, most are coming from AA.

And if you ever think I've thanked you for anything, then you've misunderstood me.

 

[Move2CLT]

So you are saying that Cleary talked to APA and knew about the merger deal. Yet he did not tell the BPR or the pilots. But McKee and the other Cleary fans were screaming to know what Hummel knew. Which it turns out was nothing. Where is your demand that Cleary be flogged for withholding info?

Keep following Cleary right over the cliff.

Quit messing with luv's story.

You're confusing him.

 

[prechilill]

Dan, you are one of them!!!

He's a winner in life, Dan keeps good company... You wouldn't understand

 

[luvn737s]

Aww...nuts! I guess your earlier suggested ostriche plumes are "out" as well? 😉

You keep right on wearing your "attire" if that's what defines you.

 

[cleardirect]

UAL pilots are pushing for this new industry standard, Wake up AA/LCC pilots. Contact your REPS NOW!! Ask President Hummel how we are going to negotiate the new industry standard rates. It is a good thing the company did not give us a contract We will not get more leverage than now, we cannot give it away.

You have got to be kidding. You can not be serious. Usapa has zero leverage. There is nothing to give away because you never had it.

 

[EastUS1]

You keep right on wearing your "attire" if that's what defines you.

Nah!...it wouldn't be right to infringe on your already established notions of fashion 😉

 

[luvthe9]

You have got to be kidding. You can not be serious. Usapa has zero leverage. There is nothing to give away because you never had it.

you should just feel very lucky you have not been sold off, geez even doug said PHX is a losing joke, he's bugging out and moving to DFW, how are those 50 or so furloughs boys doing with thier damages suit, at the bottom of a 1500 or so furlough list just waiting to be recalled, good job Furguson!!!!!! 😀 😀

 

[Claxon]

You have got to be kidding. You can not be serious. Usapa has zero leverage. There is nothing to give away because you never had it.

Count on the westerners to take the lowball offer. It is a career standard Franke imprinted in them ages ago when he gathered them to be his disciples to take the industry down. He must smile when he sees no more pensions and acrimony. Parker knows the Franke shock troops are clamoring to shake the AWA stigma. They will take the lowest and first offer. Count on it.

 

[Move2CLT]

you should just feel very lucky you have not been sold off, geez even doug said PHX is a losing joke, he's bugging out and moving to DFW, how are those 50 or so furloughs boys doing with thier damages suit, at the bottom of a 1500 or so furlough list just waiting to be recalled, good job Furguson!!!!!! 😀 😀

Oh look, luv has degenerated to baiting. No MDA, no DOH, no Music and nothing but LOA93 - I guess I'd start slinging mud too.

 

[Move2CLT]

Count on the westerners to take the lowball offer.

Said the guy who gave away his pension and is still on LOA93.

Shush ClaxoMM!!

 

[Claxon]

Next time you ride a van with them,ask if AWA was their first choice in airline jobs. They will shift uncomfortably in their seats. I guarantee it.

 

[cleardirect]

Here is the question we need to be asking instead of slinging poo at each other.

Given that AA stated in feb. that they need to lay off 400 pilots, 2300 f/a's 4200 fleet service, and 4300 mechanics......

Also that Doug signed an agreement giving them furlough protection, as in no furloughs at all.

Also that to date i don't think Doug has even talked to any of our unions.

Where do you suppose he is planning on getting those workforce reductions from?

We better hope USAPA and the other unions on the property have at least some influence left. I think if we take what doug has offered APA as it sits we native USAirways folks both east and west are getting boned.

I don't for one second believe that Doug intends to pay east and west the numbers he has promised to APA. He never has before and with tempes history of ignoring contracts and work rules I dont think he really intends to pay all he has promised to APA either.

You may not like USAPA or agree with them on much of anything, but at the end of the day they are all we have standing between us and a royal hose job. Doug could not give a crap about east or west at this point. He has the AA employees to deal with, both east and west I am sure is completly expendable in his eyes if that is what it takes to make this deal happen. Its been over a month now, If he gave a crap about USAPA, AOL, AFA etc or any east or west association or employee we would have been approached by now. To date I don't think that has happened anywhere on the property in any meaningful way.

Hope I am wrong about this.

It has been usapa that has been trying to screw the west .

But welcome to our world where Parker is only concerned about the majority. Funny how now that you east guys are not the majority you are looking for unity from the west.

Parker does not have to talk to US. He has APA and they will soon be the bargaining agent. Usapa made themselves irrelevant long ago.

Welcome to the minority.