June - US Pilots Labor Discussion

[luvn737s]

I'm in. That article 9 posted is Parker's play book. The way things are going, Easties will be taking a seat in the back of the bus with us Westies.

But EastUS will salute the east as the "Spent Cartridges", when actually they were just a paper strip of caps in USAPA's toy.

I would guess that we will be behind the bus pushing up the hill while the east walks behind us whining and the APA is in the drivers seat with their foot on the brake (just to be safe). At a time of their choosing, they will take their foot off the brake, allow the bus to roll back over those behind it and say, "Too bad".

 

[fodase]

This merger needs to be stopped until there is a good contract for all three airlines!!!!!

Idiot, you don't have a say. Usapa will either accept the contract or not that's what scabs get.

 

[EastUS1]

That article 9 posted is Parker's play book. The way things are going, Easties will be taking a seat in the back of the bus with us Westies. Meanwhile, Parker and APA will be going to the party in a limo. My guess is Parker will even serve the drinks. Bottoms up!

"Easties will be taking a seat in the back of the bus with us Westies." That's pretty much my guess as well, (if even on the bus, versus the entire US contingent being thrown under the wheels for better traction, which appears to be the plan)....and especially agree with the subsequent "Parker will even serve the drinks" part. 😉 Smiley face bit? = Might as well laugh about it all...Life's just too short to do otherwise.

 

[Claxon]

Idiot, you don't have a say. Usapa will either accept the contract or not that's what scabs get.

The westerners are visibly agitated. Note the increased hostility. It is because they know the Nic is unattainable with an AA merge. Unattainable in this fail to merge. This gets more interesting with each minute.
The luvn737 bus scenario is especially deranged. Note the Cleardirect Mexican prison story. They are losing grip. Nic4 is long departed.

 

[Claxon]

But EastUS will salute the east as the "Spent Cartridges", when actually they were just a paper strip of caps in USAPA's toy.

I would guess that we will be behind the bus pushing up the hill while the east walks behind us whining and the APA is in the drivers seat with their foot on the brake (just to be safe). At a time of their choosing, they will take their foot off the brake, allow the bus to roll back over those behind it and say, "Too bad".

This is especially entertaining.

 

[fodase]

The westerners are visibly agitated. Note the increased hostility. It is because they know the Nic is unattainable with an AA merge. Unattainable in this fail to merge. This gets more interesting with each minute.
The luvn737 bus scenario is especially deranged. Note the Cleardirect Mexican prison story. They are losing grip. Nic4 is long departed.

Right on schedule, the clown college valedictorian makes an appearance and shows us why he's the top clown.

 

[PITbull]

Really? Please continue to educate and inform by listing all of her contributions to the combined employee group in the past 5 years. And then, feel free to add how the "victories" of USAPA have had a multiplier effect on those accomplishments.

This shouldn't take long, unless you choose to depressurize your windbag by deflecting rather than making a substantive answer.

The Voluntary Furlough creation was assisted and negotiated by the local Pres of AFA 40 back in 2002, and all airlines as well as labor groups offered it to their employees, allowing for senior folks to rotate every 6 months taking a furlough and allowing the junior workforce to not be involuntarily furloughed, saving millions and millions in wage and benefits for the airlines to survive.

In addition to the VFLR implemented in 2005, offered a voluntary furough with limited recall rights for approx 1200 f/as seniority diriven to leave the company and come back in the future on a limited recall, again gving those folks who wanted to leave the company with an incentive package if they chose. This gave the company permanent cost savings!, also created and assited in the negotiations for this type of furlough.

Next.....

 

[luvthe9]

The westerners are visibly agitated. Note the increased hostility. It is because they know the Nic is unattainable with an AA merge. Unattainable in this fail to merge. This gets more interesting with each minute.
The luvn737 bus scenario is especially deranged. Note the Cleardirect Mexican prison story. They are losing grip. Nic4 is long departed.

Yes they are, the NIC has not been an issue for a while but now with that POS that Parker as offered AMR will be devastating to the west.

 

[Move2CLT]

This merger needs to be stopped until there is a good contract for all three airlines!!!!!

There are only two airlines involved in this merger and one of the unions can't do #### about it.

 

[signals]

I still find it laughable that we have already entered this fantasy merger. You don't get it. It's not about USAPA, ALPA, east or west. It's about AA being the dominant force...you will call it the APA...that neither of US will matter!

Now back to the fight...

 

[flybynite]

yep

 

[luvn737s]

The Voluntary Furlough creation was assisted and negotiated by the local Pres of AFA 40 back in 2002, and all airlines as well as labor groups offered it to their employees, allowing for senior folks to rotate every 6 months taking a furlough and allowing the junior workforce to not be involuntarily furloughed, saving millions and millions in wage and benefits for the airlines to survive.

In addition to the VFLR implemented in 2005, offered a voluntary furough with limited recall rights for approx 1200 f/as seniority diriven to leave the company and come back in the future on a limited recall, again gving those folks who wanted to leave the company with an incentive package if they chose. This gave the company permanent cost savings!, also created and assited in the negotiations for this type of furlough.

Next.....

A little outside the 5-yr time frame I mentioned, but ok. So how did this positively affect the west FAs who accepted DOH because it was mandated by AFA merger policy? The east AFA was adamant about not seeking to buffer the effects of a DOH merger on the west FAs. Giving the senior east FAs a seasonal pass to the country club that used to be their job might help furloughed FAs return on an ad hoc basis, but as I recall there were no west FAs on furlough at the time of ther merger (but I could be wrong about that).

You also seems to miss the point that USAPA's foot dragging has not put money in any AFA member's pocket. A junior FA can try to explain solidarity and principle to the guy reposessing their Kia, while the senior mamas try to decide if they want to spend another month out in Aruba.

 

[fodase]

I still find it laughable that we have already entered this fantasy merger. You don't get it. It's not about USAPA, ALPA, east or west. It's about AA being the dominant force...you will call it the APA...that neither of US will matter!

Now back to the fight...

Isn't that what the west posters are saying? The only people here that are delusional as usual are the clown scabs that think they matter.

 

[EastUS1]

So how did this positively affect the west FAs.........?

You will have to perhaps excuse some portions of the human race that haven't yet gotten the Word. Most of us are, incredible as it may seem, still woefully ignorant of the obvious notion that the AWA bunch was clearly made, and intented to be, the Chosen People and without possible doubt, the centerpiece of all creation.....

 

[EastCheats]

But EastUS will salute the east as the "Spent Cartridges", when actually they were just a paper strip of caps in USAPA's toy.

I would guess that we will be behind the bus pushing up the hill while the east walks behind us whining and the APA is in the drivers seat with their foot on the brake (just to be safe). At a time of their choosing, they will take their foot off the brake, allow the bus to roll back over those behind it and say, "Too bad".

Parker wants to be the Grand Poo-Bah in the airline industry and APA wants a divorce from Horton. The honeymoon will be over after Parker gets what he wants. History will repeat itself while he sits back once again while he profits on division.

There will be a three-way alright and everyone gets screwed because it will be tyranny of the new majority and the ultimate winner is Parker.