Midatlantic 2.0

Rico

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I have posted in the past that IMO it was stupid to discontinue Midatlantic, and IMO the possibility that it would be restarted in some other form was likely.

Now it seems that things are afoot, both with MDA and around it.

Look at this little quote from the Company spokesperson, Castelveter said:

US Airways will not dissolve its MidAtlantic division. Though the jets are being sold, he wrote, "the collective bargaining agreements and labor representation status still exists
Now, granted this was in an article that addressed labor concerns with the Republic purchase, and with an ongoing grievence he would not say anything publically that would go against the company's position, but...

Then again, what if it was not just typical spin, and pointed to future plans... :huh:

"Blah blah, not selling MDA, just selling assets blah blah" is expected, but making the point that the CBA's will still remain active... Who would care if the MDA CBA's remained in place if the MDA operation was meant to join Metrojet in the trash bin...?

So I got to thinking, IF the company wanted to bring on the E-190, how would they go about it...?

Asking for outside companies to submit proposals... Yep. Raises pilot union concerns (well at least at AWA where they have a real ALPA) and also sets the stage for MDA E-190 Payscale negotiations (with rates limited by what the outside companies offered to fly them for...)

Would you still sell the E-170's...? Well, although I would much rather that they do not <_< , If they are looking to raise capital to turn around and add E-190's instead then it makes at least a little sense.

If such a swap out was made, you would see at least the 28 E-170's in our colors right now, plus I would assume the 25 E-190's they are soliciting an outside airline to fly, and then 25+ additional MDA E-190's... That's 75 E-170/190's without much in the way of new capital outlay on US Airways' part.

Afterall, jetBlue is not going to just sit idle with their new E-190 fleet, and why play catchup instead of maintaining our established operation...

Just thinking out loud, but it does click with some of the things going on in the background lately.

I would not write off the Republic deal yet, but then again, I would not be surprised by yet another deal coming out of the thin blue either.


Opinions...?
 
Maybe in some form MAA will be kept alive with America West's flight certificate if this new merged airline is flying under the Airways certificate.
 
There is specific language in the pilot CBA that allows 25 E-190 under certain conditions and that has been made clear on this board. It stands to reason that the company at some point will try to expand this probably using some present contract abuse or grievance settlement as bait to try to get the pilots to give away the E-190. However, most mainline pilots are fully aware of two things right now. One, the company has no intentions of abiding by the ALPA CBA and two, the E-190 aircraft is a direct replacement for the former Group 2 (737, DC-9) aircraft and Group 3 (F-100) aircraft. IMO, a line is being drawn in the sand right now regarding these aircraft. If the company wants to fly them, then they better find a way to finance them and negotiate a payrate for them.

The mainline pilots and the WO pilots have lost an absurd number of jobs to contract carriers and for what? It sure hasn't helped the bottom line. Time to regroup.

A320 Driver
 
Rico said:
"Blah blah, not selling MDA, just selling assets blah blah" is expected, but making the point that the CBA's will still remain active... Who would care if the MDA CBA's remained in place if the MDA operation was meant to join Metrojet in the trash bin...?


so you end up a mirror image of mainline.....an airline that is basically worthless,all assets mortgaged for cash......soon to be extinct or well on its way.
same old song over and ove r? :up:
 
Of course Castelveter said what he said: it would be tough for the company to prove that the current song and dance with the MDA assets is merely a sale instead of a change of control if he admitted it was a sale of the entire operation. This, in turn, might mess up that wee little arbitration session currently underway.
 
Not surprisingly, US Air was singing another tune before labor made a strink.

From a June article:

US Airways will completely dissolve its MidAtlantic Airways regional unit when the bankrupt carrier’s deal to transfer 28 Embraer 170s to Republic Airways Holdings is finalized.
 
HighFlyerMiami said:
Not surprisingly, US Air was singing another tune before labor made a strink.

From a June article:

US Airways will completely dissolve its MidAtlantic Airways regional unit when the bankrupt carrier’s deal to transfer 28 Embraer 170s to Republic Airways Holdings is finalized.
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What exactly is a "strink"?