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Obviously the paper doesent understand the nuances of aircraft scheduling and flying hour requirments to remain a part 121 carrier.
 
I'm surprised AA didn't respond that the plane was loaded with cargo, which they usually are going over the creek, so it wasn't a total waste!

I did however get a kick out of the photo the news article used - all those 27 tails pretty in a row! :bleh:
 
I'm surprised AA didn't respond that the plane was loaded with cargo, which they usually are going over the creek, so it wasn't a total waste!

I did however get a kick out of the photo the news article used - all those 27 tails pretty in a row! :bleh:


What 27 tails? :huh:
 
So in their view, AA "wasted" 22k gallons of fuel, producing x tons of CO2. Yawn.

AA burns nearly 3 billion gallons of jetA each year.

Drivers in the USA burn more than 142 billion gallons of gasoline annually.

Total USA petroleum consumption is about 317 billion gallons each year.

And these morons are all wrapped around their axle over a 22k gal flight? So that AA could bring home 245 people who were counting on this flight? 🙄

Somebody ought to tell them about all those airlines that fly their airplanes empty to foreign maintenance destinations. Talk about a crime.

I've still got a couple of cars in which I take . . . gasp, pleasure drives. And they don't get very good gas mileage. Don't anyone tell these eco-terrorists about that.
 
Obviously the paper doesent understand the nuances of aircraft scheduling and flying hour requirments to remain a part 121 carrier.
I did read the following in the same article:
With such a small passenger load we did consider whether we could cancel the flight and re-accommodate the five remaining passengers on other flights.

"However, this would have left a plane load of west-bound passengers stranded in London Heathrow who were due to fly back to the US on the same aircraft.

"We sought alternative flights for the west-bound passengers but heavy loads out of London that day meant that this was not possible."
 
What 27 tails? :huh:

Ooooo yer right! Big Brain Fart on my part. I saw MadDog and wrote 2-7.

I'm guessing it's an age thing but either way, I'm almost certain AA doesn't fly MadDogs from ORD to LHR!

I know, stock footage and all, it just seems odd that it was the picture a UK newsie chose to use.
 
Hang on while I yawn. Don't these people understand positioning runs? You cancel the outbound flight, but the inbound flight is heavily loaded, so you can:
a. leave 250 people stranded at Heathrow
b. fly the "empty" plane full of cargo and generate some passenger revenue and not leave 250 people stranded the next morning in London.

Gee... That's a no brainer!
 
I was at CDG this winter when a 67 went mechanical at JFK. It it caused chaos at the check in lines as all the agents (and the French aren't that great at customer service in the first place) tried to accommodated the passengers on already packed flights back to the US. I have no problem with them flying an empty plane over to prevent inconveniencing inbound passengers the same way the outbound ones were undoubtedly inconvenienced.
 
The truly sad thing is that the many of the so-called 'leaders' of the environmental movement (Al Gore for example) see no problem with flying around the globe in their personal jets (as long as they buy the carbon offsets to be "carbon neutral" which they can't be because they're breathing), but neverthelses continue to spew the garbage of how commercial aviation is polluting the planet. :down: :down: :down: Unfortunately, the mainstream media feeds this garbage to the public which more or less buys it. :down: :down: :down:
 
I'm suprised these enviro groups say nothing when UA, DL, CO and others fly 767's and 777's across the Pacific totally empty, both ways, on a regular basis.
 
Thank goodness sanity prevails here on this topic. The eco folks are screaming (via the media) about this and seem to have no understanding of the business impact of leaving hundreds of US-bound passengers stranded in London for days on end. It's certainly regrettable that AA was put in this position, but the grandstanding by the so-called eco warriors is, in a word, opportunistic.
 
Some additional intelligent comments:

CNN - Airline defends 5-passenger flight:
American Airlines said it chose to continue with the flight because of the full load of passengers waiting at London's Heathrow airport to return to the United States.

"With such a small passenger load we did consider whether we could cancel the flight and re-accommodate the five remaining passengers on other flights," says American Airlines' European spokesperson Anneliese Morris.

"However, this would have left a plane load of west-bound passengers stranded in London Heathrow who were due to fly to the U.S. on the same aircraft."

Morris was quick to point out that despite the staggeringly low passenger count, the flight did carry a full cargo load.

"We sought alternative flights for the west-bound passengers but heavy loads out of London meant that this was not possible. The only option was to operate the flight," Morris said.

"This put the aircraft in London Heathrow for the following day, enabling us to operate a full schedule and avoid further inconvenience to our passengers and cargo customers."
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Kieran Daly, air transport intelligence editor for Flight International magazine, said the amount passengers carried was irrelevant.

"Airlines are still a business. The cargo had to be flown and perhaps some of it was time-sensitive," Daly said.

"It's just not practical for an airline to tell its customers that it won't fly until it has a full passenger load. Customers won't be happy and the airline will quickly be out of business."
 

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