New JFK-LHR schedule
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jimntx
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I think something is wrong with the Non-Rev Travel Planner. I just tried JFK-LHR for 10/12, and it showed only two flights, both codeshares operated by BA.
According to Expedia, we have 5 flights to LHR on 10/12, and BA has 3. I checked Dec. 12 also. Expedia says we have 5 flights and BA has 5 for that date. This does not count the codeshares between the two. (One of the things I like about Expedia, it tells you upfront which are codeshares and which are not.)
According to Expedia, we have 5 flights to LHR on 10/12, and BA has 3. I checked Dec. 12 also. Expedia says we have 5 flights and BA has 5 for that date. This does not count the codeshares between the two. (One of the things I like about Expedia, it tells you upfront which are codeshares and which are not.)
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You have to click on the "more flights" button and it will list more flights so that is why I deleted my post. I got my self all stirred up for nothing!
MAH4546 has posted here and on Flyertalk that AA will soon announce a few new European flights from JFK and ORD; it's possible (but not likely) that some of that capacity would come from AA reductions on JFK-LHR. MAH4546 has also posted that AA's widebody fleet is woefully underutilized and that the capacity would come from simply tightening up the utilization of the 777s and 763s.
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Yeah I have seen what he says and I don't believe it. I have yet to see a 777 charter that he keeps referring to. Plus he said awhile back that we were getting a 6th JFK-LHR this fall and that hasn't happened. To think that any REAL growth is going to come from underutilized airplanes and not from acquired additional aircraft is absurd.
Absurd or not, its true.
The 6th JFK-LHR announcement wasn't what I said, it was what AA itself said in a press release. It never did materialize, unfortunately.
If you have not seen the 777/763 troop charters going to the Middle East, well, then you are blind. But they ended September 30th so don't look for any more.
One route is being discontinued, ORD-FRA. That's it.
Most of the increased flying is funded by a drastically under utilized 75L fleet.
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I suspect JFK-LHR #6 was made redundant with ATI approval and execution.
Glad to see AA.com is already showing BA flights as AA*... Just pulled up ORD-LHR and got two extras. Now all they have to do is spread them out a little better. There's a 17:10 and 17:20 departure, and an 20:10 and 20:20 departure.... How long before it's spread out to be 1700, 1800, 1900, and 2000?....
Glad to see AA.com is already showing BA flights as AA*... Just pulled up ORD-LHR and got two extras. Now all they have to do is spread them out a little better. There's a 17:10 and 17:20 departure, and an 20:10 and 20:20 departure.... How long before it's spread out to be 1700, 1800, 1900, and 2000?....
Schedule allignment will begin effective winter 2011/12. This allignment will also be when the airlines start taking advantage of metal neutrality, if they find routes were it will be beneficial.
For example, I could see Iberia's A340-600 replacing AA's 767-300 on DFW-MAD (763 is too small, 772 is to premium heavy), and AA's 757-200 replacing Iberia's A340-300 on BOS-MAD (343 is way too big, which forces IB to fly this on very reduced frequencies, going daily only for about six weeks during peak summer).
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Based on the shuttle announcement thread, I guess I didn't have to wait more than about 24 hours. Thanks, AA. 😉
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http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/10/where-is-american-airlines-fin.html
I thought this was interesting from Horton. I still think that even after yesterdays announcements we are still just shuffling resources and that the flight attendant recalls announced are due to attrition. Real growth has not begun yet and will not begin until we announce new aircraft orders.
I thought this was interesting from Horton. I still think that even after yesterdays announcements we are still just shuffling resources and that the flight attendant recalls announced are due to attrition. Real growth has not begun yet and will not begin until we announce new aircraft orders.
jimntx
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If there had been any attrition this year I might agree with you completely. However, if you will look under Job Resources on the Flight Service website, then click on Attrition Summary you will find that...
Total Attrition 2009: 1308 (that's quit, died, retired, got fired included)...An average of 109 fa's/month.
Total Attrition 2010 (through 10/1/10): 450...an average of 50 fa's/month.
You can't look at the retirement roster and tell how many retirements there have been because the company can not publish the name/date of a retiree unless the retiree give permission--Federal privacy laws. That roster always shows fewer retirees than the attrition summary shows.
IIRC, you have to apply for retirement 3 months prior to the actual date; so, maybe the company knows something we don't know about attrition in the last 3 months of the year. That would certainly explain two regular transfer events to DFW in less than two weeks after no transfers--other than domestic mutuals--for the last 4 years.
Where do you get that erroneous information that f/a's have to notify the company 3 months before they can retire? That is absolutely wrong. Maybe you are confusing resigning the international division to go domestic but a's far a's resigning or retiring you can walk in to at any given moment and retire or resign.
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Oh well, excuse me, Miss Authority on Everything. In most companies, it is "preferred" that you notify the company in advance of your retirement. I assumed that AMR preferred some advance notice. There's a lot of paperwork involved in a retirement. I can tell you for sure that if you announced today that you were retiring tomorrow, you would NOT get your first retirement check on Nov. 1st. It would be December 1st at the earliest.
From what Kirkpatrick posted in the past, the 2009 attrition numbers included furloughed employees. Those amount to 40% of the total attrition for that year.
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True, but If I remember correctly, none of the furloughee attrition was due to people dropping off the recall list. The law extending their recall was passed in 2008, wasn't it? The furloughees who were included in the attrition were people who retired. I don't think it was as high as 40% of the total attrition. With a couple of notable exceptions, up until this year attrition has averaged over 100 month for several years. It's one of the reasons that my seniority number has dropped by over 4000 numbers since I was recalled 6 years ago.
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