Outsourcing Commences

[700UW]

There has been no transformation plan give to the union from the company.

The IAM put out bulletins during the whole process and the final offer was in people's hands on Saturday the 1/8/05 and the latest was Monday 1/10/05, it was given to the NC at 9:15PM on 1/6/05 so dont say the final offer for the M&R were not in the membership's hands.

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

when the IAM gave them a package worth $282,000,000 a year the company refused. I was there, were you?

[post="245891"][/post]​

Prove it...you always tell everyone to prove it ...well prove the union ever made that offer. What was it? Thought so no proof.

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

The IAM put out bulletins

[post="245940"][/post]​

Yes I remember some bulletin about some phantom union offer that the company was gonna sign. Never happened and no one ever saw that phantom offer of the union. TotallY fabricated and no proof.

 

[700UW]

How many times do you have to be told the same thing?

Your post is TOTALLY fabricated.

Every GC and representative had the offer with them at EVERY single ratification meeting and vote.

Every Negotiating Committee member has the offer, it was made available to every member to view at the meetings if the membership chose to see it.

If anyone wants to see it they can contact their Grievance Committee or General Chairperson or Negotiating Committee member.

Why do you insist in posting outright falsehoods?

Now why don't you back up your claim that it is fabricated and no proof?

See you can't because the offer exsists it was given to the company and the IAM still has it.

And if it was not the truth the IAM could be sued.

But since all you can do is throw out false information and insult people instead of taking the time to actually realize what transpired and the offer does exsist, just shows you nothing more then a pot stirrer and you question 320s information and you do the same as he.

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

See you can't because the offer exsists it was given to the company and the IAM still has it.

[post="246005"][/post]​

In your infamous words prove it.

 

[700UW]

Like I said, the information is out there and available.

Lets see YOU PROVE it is not.

But I know you won't because it is easier to sit behind a monitor and cast stones then to get off you duff and seek out the truth.

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

Like I said, the information is out there and available.

[post="246009"][/post]​

No proof again ...you know as well as I do its impossible to show proof it isn't but if it was true you could prove it. You refuse to prove it because you can't

 

[marco90821]

It is about time they started to outsource. Thanks for the info.

 

[bandit1]

700UW,

It left me scratching my head, too. For instance CHS is one of the cities the company and IAM-Fleet agreed could be outsourced.

And yet, U appears to be the company doing the hiring, according to the website, for fleet positions in CHS.

I'm guessing, at the end of the day, an affiliate like PSA will will do the ground handling in CHS. U will do all of the grunt work (hiring, training,background checks), and turn the employees over to PSA.

diogenes

Actually the company is still trying to fill open positions, I suspect that they want a trained work force when the outsourcing begins. There have been outsource companies looking at U facilities already and made statements that jobs would be offered to current staff before going to the street. Some of these stations have as many as 20 openings to fill and a timeline of about june 1 for change over.

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

But in order to have great leadership, you need a strong membership, leadership does start at the top, but if they get no support they are just wasting their time.

[post="245919"][/post]​

You are so wrong ...leadership starts at the top.

My definition of a leader . . . is a man who can persuade people to do what they don't want to do, or do what they're too lazy to do, and like it....Harry S. Truman, 1884-1972, Thirty-third President of the United States, Miller, More Plan Speaking

You cannot manage men into battle. You manage things; you lead people...Grace Hopper, Admiral, U. S. Navy (retired), Nova ( PBS TV), 1986


Leadership occurs when one person induces others to work toward some predetermined objectives.....Massie

Leadership is the ability of a superior to influence the behavior of a subordinate or group and persuade them to follow a particular course of action...Chester Bernard

Leadership is the art to of influencing and directing people in such a way that will win their obedience, confidence, respect and loyal cooperation in achieving common objectives....U. S. Air Force

The first job of a leader is to define a vision for the organization.... Leadership of the capacity to translate vision into reality....Warren Bennis, President, University of Cincinnati, University of Maryland symposium, January 21, 1988


The ultimate test of practical leadership is the realization of intended, real change that meets people’s enduring needs...James MacGregor Burns

 

[umech]

Like I said, the information is out there and available.

Lets see YOU PROVE it is not.

But I know you won't because it is easier to sit behind a monitor and cast stones then to get off you duff and seek out the truth.

[post="246009"][/post]​

700uw ;

POST THE UNION IS OFFER TO THE COMPANY.,

 

[umech]

You are so wrong ...leadership starts at the top.

My definition of a leader . . . is a man who can persuade people to do what they don't want to do, or do what they're too lazy to do, and like it....Harry S. Truman, 1884-1972, Thirty-third President of the United States, Miller, More Plan Speaking

VOTE NO ; excellent.

but 700UW wont get it

IAM :down: :down:

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

700uw ;

POST THE UNION IS OFFER TO THE COMPANY.,

[post="246040"][/post]​

HE can't it doesn't exist no proof. Anyone here see it? post contents please.

 

[700UW]

HE can't it doesn't exist no proof. Anyone here see it? post contents please.

[post="246079"][/post]​

Prove it does not exsist!

Like I said, go ask your General Chairman, Grievance Committee or Negotiating Committee and they will gladly you show it.

Go ask the members that read it at the ratification votes.

Go ask the company if an offer was recieved from the IAM on 1/5/05.

If you say it does not exsist then prove it, I read it as well as numerous others.

If you want to see it go seek out your reps that have it.

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

Prove it does not exsist!

[post="246085"][/post]​

Funny no one here has seen it or reported on it's contents. We know why. That proof enough.