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Who could be that dense?
but a lot of trust will have to be put on the TWU and IAM president to do the 'right thing'
IMO, the TWU might have been the frontrunner at AMR with its current position, but coming up with a 'association' that is nothing more than 2 members who can change their constitution at any given moment without a vote has really put a big question over who exactly is going to represent this group if the 'association' is birthed? I mean, the two page Q & A that the TWU/IAM put together was juvenile and avoided the very very big elephant in the room, i.e., THE CERTIFICATION! The Association is going to be the one certified, NOT the TWU, Not the IAM. Those certifications are like landing slots. They are worth millions. Unions have traded certifications with new affiliations all the time and the membership doesn't have a say. Not saying that is how it will play out but "The Juice" is in the certification. The Association will call all the shots. I just don't think it's smart to use a certification to barter with, and this certification will not have any membership imput since it will be held with a ghost union that, by constitution, only will have 2 members. Maybe after these representational elections, the IAM or the TWU member in the association strikes a deal and hands over the certification to the other union. The problem with that is it will have no mechanics consent. Yikes!And we all know how much the mechanics trust those guys, or anybody else for the matter.
The IAM is Toast as far as Mechanics.
I am voting Teamsters due to my dislike for The Association. We've been IAM and TWU screwed for many years. Why not give someone else a chance. IBT seem aggressive and motivated. The IAM fell asleep on this one.
IMO, the IAM is in a real jam.
TIM / BOB My station is 90% IBT... TOO LITTLE TOO LATE FOR THE IAM/TWU COALITION..And we all know how much the mechanics trust those guys, or anybody else for the matter.
The IAM is Toast as far as Mechanics.
TIM / BOB My station is 90% IBT... TOO LITTLE TOO LATE FOR THE IAM/TWU COALITION..
HAVE A NICE IBT DAY.... B)
You guys do realize that the Association does not even exist yet. The vote will be between the IAM and the IBT ONLY. The Association only comes to fruition if/when the merger happens.
The problem is that even if someone likes the IAM, the IAM will NOT have the certification. "The Association" will. Let's say the Association wins representation rights later this year for the combined carrier. After it gets certified, there is rumor that the association will then ask the NMB to assign the mechanics to the TWU and the FSC to the IAM, and dissolve itself. Although the rumor is strong, it definitely could happen and would be a brilliant move by the TWU and IAM to protect their interest and have weathered the IBT/AMFA storm at each airline. Doing such would also place another bar on any raid. I don't necessarily agree with that path, imo, the path that the association would take would be to enhance the affiliation possibly bringing in even another union under its canopy. Bottom line is who can stop it? Again, if you love the IAM, fine, but the IAM will not be certified. regards,I can not tell you how to vote but do your research on the Teamsters before you hit that knee jerk reaction by voting the Teamsters. From my experience the TWU really sucks but after I spent some time researching the Teamsters they really, really suck more than the TWU. The IAM is a better choice if you have a choice between the two.
You can also use your WRITE IN choice on your ballot and write in "AMFA".
Avoid the Teamsters, you will be better off in the long run.
I am voting Teamsters due to my dislike for The Association. We've been IAM and TWU screwed for many years. Why not give someone else a chance. IBT seem aggressive and motivated. The IAM fell asleep on this one.