Even if these planes called for a recall of F/As, that wouldn't neccessarily bring back the MDA FAs, if any. About 300-400 of 1300 or so involuntarily furloughed FAs returned for the 170. Some of them were so junior they would not be reached for a standard mainline recall unless 1000 or so FAs quit or died, or the airline ordered 100 or so pure growth aircraft. A small handful of MDA/furloughed, about 50, half were MDA, were recalled to LGA. HOwever some of the MDA that took the LGA recall are junior to some still at (for now)MDA. At that time, they did not know that all MDA FAs would lose thier job to Republic Airlines new hires or even that the planes had been sold, so they stayed MDA... meaning there are active "mainline" FAs active while FAs that are senior to them will be furloughed from "MDA."
When they start 190 flying, they will likely base it out of only one base at first and only that base of FAs would fly it, bidding in seniority order. I would image it'll go senior because it's new and it's not alot of work, which appeals to some of the seniors. If the 170 had not had a fence around it, under the regular contract, most junior people would not have even seen it, and only the very most senior furloughed people would have been recalled.
The MDA scam had 2000 hires holding blocks, and people from the last ever US Airways class in 2001 active on reserve. These blocks came out of PIT, PHL, and DCA pushing "full mainline" reserve seniority higher. For example, reserve in PIT, with a non-fenced 170 might "only" have been 13 or 14 years instead of 16 or 17 because of the additional flying. What MDA did was screw up the seniority list by taking mainline flying- making real mainline more senior, made furloughs blockholders, and junior furloughs active while more senior furloughs (voluntarily) remained inactive. Of course, now outside employees are operating the planes and all of the MDA FAs will become furloughs again. All very confusing, which is the USAirways way.
The America West "new-hire" offer to the US furloughs confuses things even more, because those who choose to go will get pay longevity, but not seniority for thier time there, making different pay scales for same-seniority employees in the future depending on whether or not they could afford a hotel for 7 weeks and a temporary move to PHX. MDA on the other hand, granted the FAs thier mainline seniority for bidding purposes, and longevity for pay according to time served at mainine, but no longevity is gained there. For example, a three year US FA went to MDA at 3 year "MDA pay", but even if they serve three years there, they will return to US at 3 year pay, not 6.
Confusing? Yes, and that is why those poor FAs are suing the airline for all of this shenaningans... Even though they are mainline AND Embraer qualified, the E190 will not bring them back. However, if and when they do, and thats a big if for the really junior ones (5 years), they should be granted the seniority and longevity they rightfully earned while the old management used them to screw the rest of mainline, and then disposed of them again.
When they start 190 flying, they will likely base it out of only one base at first and only that base of FAs would fly it, bidding in seniority order. I would image it'll go senior because it's new and it's not alot of work, which appeals to some of the seniors. If the 170 had not had a fence around it, under the regular contract, most junior people would not have even seen it, and only the very most senior furloughed people would have been recalled.
The MDA scam had 2000 hires holding blocks, and people from the last ever US Airways class in 2001 active on reserve. These blocks came out of PIT, PHL, and DCA pushing "full mainline" reserve seniority higher. For example, reserve in PIT, with a non-fenced 170 might "only" have been 13 or 14 years instead of 16 or 17 because of the additional flying. What MDA did was screw up the seniority list by taking mainline flying- making real mainline more senior, made furloughs blockholders, and junior furloughs active while more senior furloughs (voluntarily) remained inactive. Of course, now outside employees are operating the planes and all of the MDA FAs will become furloughs again. All very confusing, which is the USAirways way.
The America West "new-hire" offer to the US furloughs confuses things even more, because those who choose to go will get pay longevity, but not seniority for thier time there, making different pay scales for same-seniority employees in the future depending on whether or not they could afford a hotel for 7 weeks and a temporary move to PHX. MDA on the other hand, granted the FAs thier mainline seniority for bidding purposes, and longevity for pay according to time served at mainine, but no longevity is gained there. For example, a three year US FA went to MDA at 3 year "MDA pay", but even if they serve three years there, they will return to US at 3 year pay, not 6.
Confusing? Yes, and that is why those poor FAs are suing the airline for all of this shenaningans... Even though they are mainline AND Embraer qualified, the E190 will not bring them back. However, if and when they do, and thats a big if for the really junior ones (5 years), they should be granted the seniority and longevity they rightfully earned while the old management used them to screw the rest of mainline, and then disposed of them again.
