Rick Santorum? Really?

[SparrowHawk]

Will Corzine do any time?

My gut tells me NO.

He's yet to be indicted and prosecuted or not could well depend upon the direction the Political Wind blows?

I don't think either Party has much stomach for prosecuting a fellow member of the Political Parasite Class.


Crony Capitalism is running rampant and Madoff was out of the Political Parasite loop. The perfect scapegoat. However, Corzine knows where the bodies are buried, very much an "Inside Guy". Not to sure either party would risk having a load or two of dirty laundry aired in open court.

 

[Phoenix]

Other than there is no real basis for groups to have rights conferred upon them and their is no Constitutional authority for such laws why have yet another intrusion into the lives of private citizens?

Perhaps setting someone up is as you say. For me it is preferable to addressing the issues at hand as opposed to yet another intrusion by the Nanny State over an incident where the remedy was at hand. For example at a place I worked there was a strict policy regarding Sexual Harassment (A policy far more prohibitive then any laws in place then or now) This Lady who was quite level headed and not prone to non sense was getting a hard way to go from her boss on a host of issues, among them inappropriate comments. Tanya over the course of a year kept a journal (Which I suggested she do) on anything she felt was a policy or legal Violation by "Bill" towards her or anyone. Well something he said to her was the last straw and a 23 page letter detailing his conduct went to Corporate HR, the VP in fact. After a one week investigation by HR, "Bill" Was escorted off property by two armed security guards and the locksmith was changing the locks as he was led out

No government action was required and this was NOT a case of Vigilantism. If she had gone the route of an EEOC Complaint it would still be in court and this was 1992. Private enterprise works, Governments don't.

Your "set up" sounded so much more Battman/The Joker when you implied that you were in your camouflage with a telephoto lens peaking through your bosses window in the early morning hours trying to get pics of him with your hottie to send to his wife.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Your "set up" sounded so much more Battman/The Joker when you implied that you were in your camouflage with a telephoto lens peaking through your bosses window in the early morning hours trying to get pics of him with your hottie to send to his wife.

I knew a guy that actually did that to his boss.Sshe files for divorce and cleans him out. I mean Alimony, Child Support, House, Car, the whole shootin' match.

Shortly after the divorce, the guy who set him up let's it drop that he was the guy. Some people get real upset when they perceive someone is trying to screw with their income. Witness the 3850 page Pilot thread on the US Aviation board if you don't believe me.

Think how fast the pilot integration would have been completed without Government interference from the RLA, NMB & the like?

If I was US and those wacky agencies didn't exist I'd have told the pilot groups they have 30 days to agree on a unified seniority list or I start replacing them off the street one by one. By the time ALPA or USAPA get's any suit on the docket I've got 1/3 of the pilots replaced. Or the pilots respond by calling Doug's bluff and walking off. By the time US gets on the docket it's out of business. The free market would have wrapped up those negotiations in 90 days tops. Now we're in Year 6 with no end in sight, Another example of Government failure .

Rick Sanitarium, er Santorum, Quick facts courtesy of Newsmax.

Rick Santorum’s endorsement of Arlen Specter… the key Senate vote to pass Obamacare, is becoming a key issue as the Iowa caucuses near…

Santorum’s support of Specter was cited as a key help to the liberal Specter… Santorum’s support for Specter proved crucial in the primary, in which Specter defeated (Pat) Toomey with just 50.8 percent of the vote.

Conservative criticism of Specter appeared justified. Specter backed Obama’s healthcare program — giving him the swing vote to pass the legislation in the Senate.

In 2009, Specter faced likely defeat in the GOP primary, once again challenged by Toomey. Specter decided to leave the Republican Party and ran for re-election as a Democrat. Obama backed him strongly.

Specter was defeated in the Democratic primary by Rep. Joe Sestak, who then lost the general election to Toomey.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Had he never got into trouble until he ran out of ways of paying people back. Once that happened, the SEC got wind of it and he ended up in jail. Free market sunk him as much as any federal government action. By the time the Feds got involved Bernie's house of cards was already beginning to collapse.

So vigilante justice would have prevailed if the SEC didn't get involved?

 

[SparrowHawk]

I knew a guy that actually did that to his boss.Sshe files for divorce and cleans him out. I mean Alimony, Child Support, House, Car, the whole shootin' match.

Shortly after the divorce, the guy who set him up let's it drop that he was the guy. Some people get real upset when they perceive someone is trying to screw with their income. Witness the 3850 page Pilot thread on the US Aviation board if you don't believe me.

Think how fast the pilot integration would have been completed without Government interference from the RLA, NMB & the like?

If I was US and those wacky agencies didn't exist I'd have told the pilot groups they have 30 days to agree on a unified seniority list or I start replacing them off the street one by one. By the time ALPA or USAPA get's any suit on the docket I've got 1/3 of the pilots replaced. Or the pilots respond by calling Doug's bluff and walking off. By the time US gets on the docket it's out of business. The free market would have wrapped up those negotiations in 90 days tops. Now we're in Year 6 with no end in sight, Another example of Government failure .

Rick Sanitarium, er Santorum, Quick facts courtesy of Newsmax.

Rick Santorum’s endorsement of Arlen Specter… the key Senate vote to pass Obamacare, is becoming a key issue as the Iowa caucuses near…

Santorum’s support of Specter was cited as a key help to the liberal Specter… Santorum’s support for Specter proved crucial in the primary, in which Specter defeated (Pat) Toomey with just 50.8 percent of the vote.

Conservative criticism of Specter appeared justified. Specter backed Obama’s healthcare program — giving him the swing vote to pass the legislation in the Senate.

In 2009, Specter faced likely defeat in the GOP primary, once again challenged by Toomey. Specter decided to leave the Republican Party and ran for re-election as a Democrat. Obama backed him strongly.

Specter was defeated in the Democratic primary by Rep. Joe Sestak, who then lost the general election to Toomey.

 

[Ms Tree]

What you seem to be unable to accept or are in compete denial about is that we live in a nation based on the rule of law. Had there been no laws about sexual harassment, your lady friend would have had no claim because the company would not have had any policies in place to protect her rights. Had there been no laws regarding money fraud Maddoff would not have been convicted because no laws would have been broken.

Sure someone would have probably met him in an alley somewhere and put a bullet in his head but that is not what the US is supposed to be about. We are a nation based on the rule of law. We even went so far as to draft a document against which all laws are evaluated to ensure they are fair and just. We do not support vigilante justice. We do not go around 'setting people up'.

So like it or not, the government nanny state did interfere in both examples that you presented. And it would seem the system worked, sort of.

 

[SparrowHawk]

January 3, 2012
The trouble with my uncle, Rick Santorum
By John Garver Published: 2:00 PM 01/03/2012
By John Garver
Student, University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown


If you want another big-government politician who supports the status quo to run our country, you should vote for my uncle, Rick Santorum. America is based on a strong belief in individual liberty. My uncle’s interventionist policies, both domestic and foreign, stem from his irrational fear of freedom not working.

It is not the government’s job to dictate to individuals how they must live. The Constitution was designed to protect individual liberty. My Uncle Rick cannot fathom a society in which people cooperate and work with each other freely. When Republicans were spending so much money under President Bush, my uncle was right there along with them as a senator. The reason we have so much debt is not only because of Democrats, but also because of big-spending Republicans like my Uncle Rick.

It is because of this inability of status quo politicians to recognize the importance of our individual liberties that I have been drawn to Ron Paul. Unlike my uncle, he does not believe that the American people are incapable of forming decisions. He believes that an individual is more powerful than any group (a notion our founding fathers also believed in).

Another important reason I support Ron Paul is his position on foreign policy. He is the only candidate willing to bring our troops home, not only from the Middle East, but from around the world.

Ron Paul seems to be the only candidate trying to win the election for a reason other than simply winning the election.

This year, I’ll vote for an honest change in our government. I’ll vote for real hope. I’ll vote for a real leader. This year, I will vote for Ron Paul.

John Garver is a 19-year-old student at the University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown. John is a strong supporter of Ron Paul despite his love for family member Rick Santorum.

 

[Ms Tree]

Looks like Rick and Mit are taking 1st/2nd. Very tight. It's going to be fun watching Santorum fall like a rock. Paul did quite well at 22%. He won't last but what ever. This race is going top be a hoot to watch.

 

[Dog Wonder]

It has already been a hoot.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Looks like Rick and Mit are taking 1st/2nd. Very tight. It's going to be fun watching Santorum fall like a rock. Paul did quite well at 22%. He won't last but what ever. This race is going top be a hoot to watch.

U can't say how or if Ron Paul will continue to grow or shrink. Where is is now is way farther then I thought he'd get and we're just getting warmed up. What's really funny is the MSM hasn't so much as uttered his name tonight. People see this and it could backfire.

I think when Santorum comes back East he's going to face an up hill struggle although this will help with fundraising.

I expect Bachmann to fold the tent and go back to MN. She was born in IA for Crissakes and she got 5% and those used to be Ron Paul numbers.

Perry IMO might drop out although I hope he doesn't. He's not afraid to take on Romney who is just another wealthy East Coast Elite with more ties to big banks than either Obama or Bush.

 

[777 fixer]

My first thought when I read the letter was not "Rick's ninteen year old nephew says he's voting for Ron Paul, THAT'S WHO I'M VOTING FOR!". More like, what wierd family dynamic is going on in the Santorum clan? Along with I could give a crap what his his ninteen year old nephew has to say.

 

[delldude]

Ahh, give the kid credit....he recognizes progressives are alive and well in both parties.

Newt's hardcore..........Romney is progressive soft porn. Santorum is more conservative than the last two.

777, in the end when it isn't Paul, are you going to support the best available?

I see Paul is hooked up with Barney Frank on the Sustainable Defense Task Force for 1 trillion in defense cuts.....funny thing, I think twelve of the fourteen members have ties to Soros funded organizations.....WTF's with Paul here?
Soros is on record stating the biggest obstacle to global govenance is the US military....Isn't that a coincidence?

 

[Tom Bombadil]

I was for gay marriage until Rick explained it. Three gay guys getting married, no-way.

 

[Dog Wonder]

I was for gay marriage until Rick explained it. Three gay guys getting married, no-way.

Did he mention their pets?

 

[SparrowHawk]

This has been a puzzlement to me since I knew that Girls and Boys were different. WHY, is how two people chose to live their lives the business of Government? The appropriate role of Government is to protect the Individual Liberty of its citizens.

Anyway here is some more on Rick Santorum

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/po...litics/2012/01/05/bts-santorum-event-boos.cnn

Funny thing is my personal views are quite similar to his. The difference and I think it a key one is I just plain don't give a damn what you do so long as it doesn't harm me or my family. It's like this.

Don't like same sex marriage? Don't marry a gay man or woman. Don't associate with those who's views you dislike.
Don't like abortion? Don't have one!
Don't believe in Christianity? Fine, stay out of church, leave those who do alone.

See folks it really is THAT Simple. Individual Freedom and Liberty requires two things, Protection by a military and the mutual respect of the citizens. You want Conservative Christians to overlook Gay Marriage? Then maybe you need to overlook a Nativity scene or two.

Always remember rights are conferred individually by our Creator. There are no group rights.