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[southwind]

Do you see how ridiculous your statements are? You contradict your own assertion within the very next four words: "Either fight or not." Is THAT not a choice?

The point you apparently don't get about Tree's statement is, she did not put herself in the situation where she had to choose between fighting or not ! Now if she knew, there was a maniac, in the crowd, with a gun and said "come hell or high water, I'm going to have this public forum anyways", then she could be considered a hero, not a wise choice, but still a hero !

While I'm happy about the progress she has made and sorry that this world is full of nut cases, I do not consider her a hero !

 

[southwind]

Tammy Duckworth.

Agree, she's a hero but, sorry she's a Democrat !

 

[Dog Wonder]

Besides, when's the last time the Demorats had a "Real" hero, besides John "Swift Boat" Kerry ?

All the Republicans can come up with is somebody who pretends to be Dirty Harry.

 

[777 fixer]

Thanks to a 19 year old I ran across last week I found out that Obama also passed a law that allows the GI Bill to pay for school for someone that never served in the military.(Still need to look up what bill that was hidden in) This kid was playing in a band as his job, never served in the military and according to him he is on a full ride on the GI Bill simply because his father had served. I asked him who was going to pay for all this and he said the government....I asked again who was going to pay for all this and he looked at me like I had two heads.

I am sure all the vets that served and came home wounded or minus several friends are just thrilled they get to foot the bill for this 19 year old long haired nightclub band member to go to school on the GI Bill.

You're basing your opinion on what some 19 year old kid said? Where do laws come from? For those of us who graduated high school they come from the legislature. A president can either pass or veto it. Transfering of GI BIll benefits can only occur under certain circumstances. First, there has to be unused benefits to transfer to spouses or children. Second they have to meet the eligibility requirmenets. Instead of me going over that here's a link that explains it.

http://www.gibill.va.gov/benefits/post_911_gibill/transfer_of_benefits.html

Or the servicemember was KIA after 9/10/2012.

http://www.gibill.va.gov/documents/factsheets/fry_scholarship.pdf

I doubt that there are many people who would have a problem with either situtaiton.

 

[Ms Tree]

Like Tree said, she was a victim. It's the Demorats that want her to be known as a Hero, hence why her name shows up in the chart, this is all referring to ( See post #126 )....................understand now Dog................probably not !

Besides, when's the last time the Demorats had a "Real" hero, besides John "Swift Boat" Kerry ?

It's politics. Parties are always gong to distort things for their benifit. Can you think of any circumstances where republicans have done the same? I can.


When you are willing to get shot at for your country you let me know. As far as I am concerned, Kerry served one tour and re-upped for a second when he got shot. What the republican pacs did with the swift boat BS was disgusting. Kerry actually was in Viet-Nam.... Bush was guarding Indiana from the VC invasion.

 

[Ms Tree]

Do you see how ridiculous your statements are? You contradict your own assertion within the very next four words: "Either fight or not." Is THAT not a choice?

~sigh~ The choice I was referring to was to place ones life at risk for others. Giffords did no such thing. Her only choice was to survive and fight or give up. Hence the role model statement.

 

[eolesen]

All the Republicans can come up with is somebody who pretends to be Dirty Harry.

Perhaps the Republicans simply don't need heros to inspire their base. Their goals and ideals are enough.

Democrats have been all frosting no cake lately, and don't like being held accountable for that.

They're still running on a "Blame Bush" and "Pay No Attention To The Last Four Years" strategy.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Or they come up with a pretend one for people like you to quote,

 

[Dog Wonder]

Like Tree said, she was a victim.

Tree is entitled to his opinion just as you are entitled to talk radios opinion.

Heros overcome adversity whether they chose that adversity or not.

 

[Ms Tree]

Tree is entitled to his opinion just as you are entitled to talk radios opinion.

Heros overcome adversity whether they chose that adversity or not.

Would that not be more the description of a role model as opposed to a hero? How do you differentiate the actions of someone like Neil Armstrong or John McCain as opposed to Giffords or Brady? I am not saying that what Giffords or Brady did was not admirable but I think when people make a choice to place their lives and well being secondary to others that is at the very least a diffferent kind of hero. The heros I am talking aout are the ones who run up a burning building not away from one.

 

[777 fixer]

Or the servicemember was KIA after 9/10/2012.

Correction, 9/10/2001

 

[Dog Wonder]

Would that not be more the description of a role model as opposed to a hero?

No need for parsing.

I'm not going to choose your heroes for you.

 

[777 fixer]

Perhaps the Republicans simply don't need heros to inspire their base. Their goals and ideals are enough.

Democrats have been all frosting no cake lately, and don't like being held accountable for that.

They're still running on a "Blame Bush" and "Pay No Attention To The Last Four Years" strategy.

What ideals are those? When I watch republican senators lick the boots of Chase's CEO looking for handouts at a hearing where they were supposed to be grilling hom on how they could loose a couple billion dollars on bad trades I have to wonder what ideals you are talking about.

Or how they accuse the current president of "class warfare" when their god Ronald Reagan said pretty much the same thing when he was president. What ideal is it where your party talks about getting the governement out of peoples lives except for what they do in the privacy of their own home or doctors office and then it is the governements business.

 

[eolesen]

Or they come up with a pretend one for people like you to quote,

Yet I'm not praising his actions or making him out to be the Chocolate Jesus -- I'm recognizing the sentiment of his statement: we the people own this country, and it's time to fire the guy (not) running it.

Do keep trying.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Do keep trying.

Who could argue with a wannabe fake Dirty Harry?

That already two degrees of separation from reality.