Seems The Tulsa Local 514 E-board Meeting

[Decision 2004]

Rumors are flying and so were the chairs at today's Local 514 E-Board Meeting.

Screaming and Yelling were the order of the day.

It appears the TWU is attempting to ferrot our information mole.

No can do, Local 514, our mole's identity will never be dislcosed.

You guys will never know how entrenched we are in your business.

Seems you would have figured it out by now though, we have been more than one step ahead of you all the way.

What we enjoy most is hearing the stories emerge about how you are imploding on yourselves, you have no leadership, instead, everyone is leading, and in the wrong direction!

Never under estimate your opponent. You can keep braggin though, we enjoy that also.

Now you want to threaten us with cancellation of the debate next week if we don't respond by 3:00pm today?

Go ahead, I thought the invite gave us the choice "Respond or Just Show Up".
Now you change the rules! Go Figure.

Arrogance will be replaced, inept union leadership will be replaced, screaming and yelling will be replaced, chair throwing will be replaced, the TWU will be replaced.

 

[DECISION 2007]

Now you want to threaten us with cancellation of the deabte next week?
Go ahead, I thought the invite gave us the choice "Respond or Just Show Up".
Now you change the rules! Go Figure.

Threaten you..get real boy. We see you as an amfa follower..and following in the hobbit's footsteps you will be a no-show. If we do not get something in writing as your fearful leader gave it will not happen...now, go have a burger and call your daddy to see how to respond.

 

[Decision 2004]

Threaten you..get real boy. We see you as an amfa follower..and following in the hobbit's footsteps you will be a no-show. If we do not get something in writing as your fearful leader gave it will not happen...now, go have a burger and call your daddy to see how to respond.

Bring it on!

Who is this "WE" crap? You have a mouse in your pocket?

I always wanted to see the true TWU colors fly.

You are the poster child of inept industrial unionism, so show me what you got.

Go ahead, cancel the debate and watch what happens.

Seems you would be all for another bus trip and free bar tab. UB, hotels, loudmouths, police escorts, why would you cancel such a wonderful time on the memberships' paycheck?

Thanks for the burger, with bacon and cheese please.

 

[local 12 proud]

decision 2004, the really great thing is there are several moles playing to both sides but have made it clear when the vote comes they will choose AMFA!.....THE TWU SMELL'S FEAR ..... AND ARE BEING CHEWED UP AND SPIT OUT BY THEIR OWN.....

 

[AMFANOT2004]

YOUR MOLES ARE MOLES FOR THE TWU AS WELL AS MOLES FOR AMFA THESE ARE GUYS THAT ARE SPINELESS THAT CAN'T STAND FOR ONE OR THE OTHER I do not want any of these kind of people ON either side that represents us.

 

[Checking it Out]

Dave do you have any ounce of honesty or integrity?

Do to the failed response from Delle and company and the apparent inability of the Amfa wannabes to have anyone brave enough to step forward and take the TWU challenge we the TEAM TWU members have requested the debate be cancelled and no further debates will be scheduled for now.

We have made every effort to confront the Amfa to have an honest and open debate and all they have done is made every excuse in the world to hide! You all really need to look to see what you are in store for the future if Amfa was ever to get in at AA! At this time it is highly unlikely!!!!

This smoke and Mirror tactic Amfa has portrayed of the last 6 months is pretty dismal. Think what AA will do with this clown of an organization? All you have to do is look at the past performance at NWA!

 

[deadbolt]

Is CIO(RM) going to dictate the terms of NWA mechanics, Maybe the membership at NWA does not want you to dictate to them what to do!! Have you ever asked what they want at NWA? Where is your survey? How is the TWU card drive going there! First you walk in to AA negotiations with the Northwest Agreement in 2001 and now you want to distance yourself from it and say it was bad!!? CIO very hypocritical! Lets have NWA mechanics tell you what to do, how to run the local, how to conduct meetings, how to vote on contracts! Let the United guys tell you how to dress, what to say to management, what grievances to file! Let Southwest Mechanics tell you what the crtieria is for the RO committee, ASAP! Have Horizon dictate the terms for election, selection of shop stewards and educational requirements! Let are by-laws be written by Alaska Airline mechanics!

Your are just going to sit there and tell all these other airline mechanics how to run there business?

You don't want them to do the same to you?

The membership is the Authority.....and they will be heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CIO stop riding on the backs of AMFA wages!

 

[Decision 2004]

OH NO!

The TWU will NOT let the membership decide anything.

The TWU is an institution seperate from the members.

This is why AMFA advocates activities anger them so, they can stand to not be in control.

Funny thing is that NOT one group of Mechanic and Related in the industry have a desire for the TWU.

CIO and the rest of thought police are enduring heavy stress due to the membership rejecting being told what to think and how to act.

FACE IT CIO, THE UNION HAS SPOKEN.

THE MEMBERS HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THE TWU!

 

[Checking it Out]

Deadbolt I believe you have twisted what I was saying. With Amfa you have outsource express!

The TWU Represents more Mechanic and Related active members in the Airline Industry than amfa!

The TWU represents more Airline Employees than Amfa!

The TWU has the lowest Percentage of outsourcing than Amfa.

Fact is the members (majority) Have chosen not to sign an Amfa card!

 

[Bob Owens]

CIO and the rest of thought police are enduring heavy stress due to the membership rejecting being told what to think and how to act.

With people like CIO its not so much telling them what to think, its really telling them to follow his example and NOT think!

Cio says;
The TWU Represents more Mechanic and Related active members in the Airline Industry than amfa!

Ok, other than AA, which according to the company issued seniority list has around 14000 M&R and Eagle, where else does the TWU represent A&Ps and other airline mechanics? Did the TWU add Eagle to our list?

Another remarkable thing is that now the TWU claims that they have 20,000 M&R out of a total of 30,000 at AA in total. In 2001 mechanics were outnumbered by the other workgroups, now we outnumber them 2 to one?

 

[Checking it Out]

Bob your twisting, Mechanic and related according to the NMB encumpasses more than title 1-2-4. You will also see some title 3-5 added to the class and craft. Eagle is another example. visit the TWUATD website to find more great information.!

The TWU has well over 54 contract groups and over 63,000 members within the ATD division.



Makes amfa look small!

 

[Decision 2004]

I am sure we can look forward to a "without further ratification" of min. wage mechanics and that ATD number will be really huge soon.

TWU is lowering the middle class standard that unions fought for years to obtain.

The TWU wants to eliminate the middle class and make them poor!

 

[Stop the Bus..I Want Off!!]

Deadbolt I believe you have twisted what I was saying. With Amfa you have outsource express!

The TWU Represents more Mechanic and Related active members in the Airline Industry than amfa!

The TWU represents more Airline Employees than Amfa!

The TWU has the lowest Percentage of outsourcing than Amfa.

Fact is the members (majority) Have chosen not to sign an Amfa card!

C.owering I.n O.klahoma..........you forgot one. Twu also has the worst contract in aviation history. You must give credit where credit is due. You will be out of your misery soon enough!!

Keep the Faith.......VOTE AMFA!!!!!!!!!!

 

[scorpion]

Dave do you have any ounce of honesty or integrity?

Do to the failed response from Delle and company and the apparent inability of the Amfa wannabes to have anyone brave enough to step forward and take the TWU challenge we the TEAM TWU members have requested the debate be cancelled and no further debates will be scheduled for now.

We have made every effort to confront the Amfa to have an honest and open debate and all they have done is made every excuse in the world to hide! You all really need to look to see what you are in store for the future if Amfa was ever to get in at AA! At this time it is highly unlikely!!!!

This smoke and Mirror tactic Amfa has portrayed of the last 6 months is pretty dismal. Think what AA will do with this clown of an organization? All you have to do is look at the past performance at NWA!

cio this topic is about the 514 e board meeting. I'm sure you were there so how about giving this forum your version of it!!!!!

 

[DECISION 2007]

I am sure we can look forward to a "without further ratification" of min. wage mechanics and that ATD number will be really huge soon.

TWU is lowering the middle class standard that unions fought for years to obtain.

The TWU wants to eliminate the middle class and make them poor!

The TWU wants to eliminate the middle class and make them poor!...Hey dummie...you and the dwarf are sending the middle class to Singapore, great amfa job.