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#6 is still pretty much in the minority, I would think :shock: Another left leaning state passes a gay marriage bill. That is not surprising at all.


No not surprising at all. Not like a conservative state would allow equal rights. Most of them had to be brought kicking an screaming when civil rights were advanced. The younger generations are much more tolerant. They will be the ones who allow same sex marriage.

One state at a time. Womens rights and civil rights did not happen over night. Equal rights for gays/trans gender will take time as well.
 
No not surprising at all. Not like a conservative state would allow equal rights. Most of them had to be brought kicking an screaming when civil rights were advanced. The younger generations are much more tolerant. They will be the ones who allow same sex marriage.

Of course they will as they do not value history. The Roman Empire lasted 500 years until it fell into self serving debauchery and lost sight of their empire while other more temperate countries chewed them up.

Of course that was when people were too stupid and not as technologically advanced as we are today.
It will never happen again… :lol:

One state at a time. Womens rights and civil rights did not happen over night. Equal rights for gays/trans gender will take time as well.

Again, your comparisons to suffrage and ethnic equality does not apply to sexual preference and I find your parallelisms offensive to the people that have 'actually' suffered.

B) xUT
 
I believe that the younger generation is just not stuck in the old days. They believe that people have the right to their own privacy and as long as it does not affect other around them, go for it.

You being offended is the least of my worries. Being denied equal rights is same regardless of circumstances.
 
Women are in the military and serving in combat rolls yet no one is making a all woman division. There are thousands of gays in the military and serving with distinction. At a time when our military is stretched to its breaking limit, the number of discharges under the don't ask rule is shrinking but we cannot afford to loose one person who is willing to enlist. In 2001 we lost over 1,000 soldiers, in 2006 we lost over 600.

Aside from that, the Obama announcement has to do with benefits, not the don't ask rule. As I understand it, the don't ask rule is still being evaluated.
 
Yea, you are right. Let's reduce cost even further and deny benefits to women and minorities. White Christians male property owners like back in the good old days.
 
Yea, you are right. Let's reduce cost even further and deny benefits to women and minorities. White Christians male property owners like back in the good old days.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


It's OK to deny polygamists equal rights as long as it it 'cost neutral' but you are more than willing to take money out of 'MY' pocket, without 'MY' consent to subsidize the LBGT...xyz 'CHOICE'!

Then you further obfuscate your position by inferring that the 'equality' of suffrage and ethnic racism epithets 'somehow' is 'equal' to the choice of sexual partners.

The justification of your reasoning is quite flawed as 'YOU' are a small minded bigot.

You are quite comfortable making racist euphemisms and negative comments as to my religion and ethnic background even though you don't know 'squat' about me.

Your disdain and prejudice against white males is quite telling. :shock:

B) xUT
 
Yea, you are right. Let's reduce cost even further and deny benefits to women and minorities. White Christians male property owners like back in the good old days.
Garfied, Did you see that the junior Senator from Nevada, John Ensign, a republican, the party of white Christian morality, stated yesterday that he, had an affair with a married woman? The other woman's husband found out and threaten to blackmail him and the good senator went public.
 
Not quite. As long as there is not tax advantage to having more than one spouse then there can be as many marriages as anyone wants. IIRC, the marriage penalty/advantage has been taken out of the tax code so I believe this issue is moot.

The fact that you deny that sexual preference is genetic and not a choice is your problem not mine. There is no accepted medical data to support your POV. The medically accepted theory is that at best it is a combination of genetic, social and environmental. Bigotry and bias is the same. Murder is murder. The fact that you chose to justify one why condemning the other is your problem. I believe all people should be treated equally. Whether they choose to be different or are different because of genetic and environmental causes is irrelevant. I have yet to meet anyone, gay, straight or in between who says they 'choose' to be what ever they are. I like women and always have. Never chose it.

If wanting everyone to be treated the same is the requirement for being a small mined bigot then sign me up.

Not exactly sure what racist comments you are referring to.

As far as I am concerned, anyone can believe what ever they choose to, just keep it private and don't force beliefs on others.

I don't know anything about you and really don't care. As far as I can recall I have never attacked you personally. If I have I apologize. That was not intended.

Prejudice against white males? Huh?
 
Garfied, Did you see that the junior Senator from Nevada, John Ensign, a republican, the party of white Christian morality, stated yesterday that he, had an affair with a married woman? The other woman's husband found out and threaten to blackmail him and the good senator went public.


Hey, at least the staffer he was banging was a female.

This is the part that will be interesting if it turns out to be true.

Cynthia Hampton worked for his campaign and at his Battle Born Political Action Committee, where she earned $700 per two-week pay period for much of 2007, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. In February 2008, that doubled to almost $1,400.

Doug Hampton, an administrative assistant in Ensign's office, earned more than $144,000 in fiscal year 2007 and about $101,000 the next fiscal year, records show. Both Hamptons stopped working for the senator by May of that year.

Meanwhile, their 19-year-old-son, Brandon, was paid $5,400 by the National Republican Senatorial Committee between March 2008 and August 2008. The payments, for "research policy consulting," ended the same month as the affair reportedly did, federal election records show.
 

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