The LOW CLASS in LCC Strikes Again
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US1Yfare,
Well, it's your topic and you finally answered it.....Looks like YOU are putting the Low Class in LCC!
OMG, YOU are so funny...so are we still on for cocktails at your trailer on wednesday? I'll bring the pigs in a blanket...and I'm not talking about the C who was flying with TP72
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As long as you continue to pay my paycheck I'll be living in a trailer! You are a twisted person! 😉
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You must have me confused with someone else...maybe one of the roaches...the fares I pay could get you a 4th floor walkup studio apartment in Pocatello, Idaho...
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All I said is I am seeing more and more lazy F/As. Therer aare still plent of good ones out therre, but the attitude is going in the wrong direction, and that is what is bothering me. And it is that attitude that will (and has) driven me away faster than the stupid moves by management.
I had a great west crew the other night, as well as a fair east crew and another great east crew on a three leged trans con. But the lazy east crew did more damage than the two great crews, and that is the prtoblem.
All I said is I am seeing more and more lazy F/As. Therer aare still plent of good ones out therre, but the attitude is going in the wrong direction, and that is what is bothering me. And it is that attitude that will (and has) driven me away faster than the stupid moves by management.
I had a great west crew the other night, as well as a fair east crew and another great east crew on a three leged trans con. But the lazy east crew did more damage than the two great crews, and that is the prtoblem.
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Oh that's a good one....I'll have to try that!! 🙂
I think the F/C snack basket is being considered an offering at the same level of a snack, or meal. I've worked flights in the west that will have the new $3 trail mix/cookie/cheese cracker package, or the $5 SkyFun box and FC only has the snack basket. I agree it's just wrong to sell F/C at the higher price or charge miles for an upgrade and say you are getting a nicer seat.
Nicer seat does not apply to the west 737! Two rows, 4 bins, and a lousy seat pitch, no value there
Nicer seat does not apply to the west 737! Two rows, 4 bins, and a lousy seat pitch, no value there
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PHX-F/A,
If your point is correct then it indicates a major difference in perception between Tempe and the East FF's. Inasmuch as the snack basket (which by the way is the holy grail for many of us FF's) is offered on almost ALL flights regardless of stage length, then it is not correct to consider it a full snack or "meal" on longer haul (ie. NE-FL) flights. I think this is where the disconnect and the misunderstanding can run away with itself.
While there used to be snack service (at least salad or small sandwich) on 2-3 hour stage length flights, there is now nothing other than the snack basket--or the same catering as a 35-40 minute flight. When the change was made from the old snack-meal to nothing but the basket on flights less than 3.5 hours, a lot of feathers were ruffled, especially since for a while BOB meals were offered on those 2-3 hour flights while nothing but the basket was offered up front.
The underlying issues here are consistency and communication. We who fly regularly have seen different levels of service on different flights (sometimes the same flight a few days apart). While we understand the company is still trying to define itself, it should move a little faster, and take steps to correct the perception that they just plan on pulling services and amenities without reducing fares.
If that continues, what you will have is reduced value for a similar if not higher price than other legacy carriers (although US wants to be an LCC, and may be succeeding somewhat on the cost side, they are nothing like WN or B6 on the fare side). If you reduce value, then people will leave. The question is how many elite flyers who spend anywhere from $10K-$50K or more a year with US have to leave before the projected savings from service reductions become a moot point and potentially cost MORE than the projected savings? That is the 64 million dollar question.
I truly believe that US has the potential to be a strong, successful and profitable airline--not just for 1 quarter, but consistently. I think we all (employees AND management, and FF's as well) have to find some common ground to work together so we can keep flying US because it presents a better VALUE than the other airlines. I know the US front line employees are for the most part the best in the industry--I just hope you don't forget that, because YOU are the reason most of us stayed around.
My best to you all....
If your point is correct then it indicates a major difference in perception between Tempe and the East FF's. Inasmuch as the snack basket (which by the way is the holy grail for many of us FF's) is offered on almost ALL flights regardless of stage length, then it is not correct to consider it a full snack or "meal" on longer haul (ie. NE-FL) flights. I think this is where the disconnect and the misunderstanding can run away with itself.
While there used to be snack service (at least salad or small sandwich) on 2-3 hour stage length flights, there is now nothing other than the snack basket--or the same catering as a 35-40 minute flight. When the change was made from the old snack-meal to nothing but the basket on flights less than 3.5 hours, a lot of feathers were ruffled, especially since for a while BOB meals were offered on those 2-3 hour flights while nothing but the basket was offered up front.
The underlying issues here are consistency and communication. We who fly regularly have seen different levels of service on different flights (sometimes the same flight a few days apart). While we understand the company is still trying to define itself, it should move a little faster, and take steps to correct the perception that they just plan on pulling services and amenities without reducing fares.
If that continues, what you will have is reduced value for a similar if not higher price than other legacy carriers (although US wants to be an LCC, and may be succeeding somewhat on the cost side, they are nothing like WN or B6 on the fare side). If you reduce value, then people will leave. The question is how many elite flyers who spend anywhere from $10K-$50K or more a year with US have to leave before the projected savings from service reductions become a moot point and potentially cost MORE than the projected savings? That is the 64 million dollar question.
I truly believe that US has the potential to be a strong, successful and profitable airline--not just for 1 quarter, but consistently. I think we all (employees AND management, and FF's as well) have to find some common ground to work together so we can keep flying US because it presents a better VALUE than the other airlines. I know the US front line employees are for the most part the best in the industry--I just hope you don't forget that, because YOU are the reason most of us stayed around.
My best to you all....
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I realize that, but for those of us that really care and work hard, it is nice when you see something written positive.
I hate hearing that. Those becoming greater realize the company can take MANY things away, but not my pride or work ethic. The moment that get that, I will gladly quit.
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Art:
Let's put this all in perspective.
Your mention of a snack/sandwich on east coast-Florida flights, got me to thinking that it hasn't been all that long (pre 9/11) that one could get full dinner in FC on flights such as CLT-FLL/PBI or MSP-CLT/PIT and breakfast on the reverse. And I'm not talking the full blown FC service from the late 80s/early 90s, just a simple, but complete meal. I still remember getting a good filet on the evening MSP-PIT MD-80 flights in the mid 90s and a full hot breakfast on MHT-PIT on a DC-9.
Things have sure gone downhill since those days.
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This WAS addressed E-A-R-L-I-E-R.....some people want to believe what THEY want to BELIEVE. The snack was never intended to be sold in F/C, and just because a pax is seated in F/C doesn't entitle him/her to anything onboard. Personally I get real tired of the "I want, I need, I gotta have...." attitudes.
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The next initiative from Tempe. Just to keep the FFs from posting.
Bologna (I would say jumbo but the people still afraid PIT will rise again would poop on their computers) on white bread with stolen mustard from the local diner for a First Class snack. And Fritos.
Oh yes, this will replace the snack basket.
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Bologna (I would say jumbo but the people still afraid PIT will rise again would poop on their computers) on white bread with stolen mustard from the local diner for a First Class snack. And Fritos.
Oh yes, this will replace the snack basket.
Welcome to the county slammer.
Don't do the time on this board if you can't do the time.
Bad Boys Bad Boys whatcha gonna do when we come for you?
