Time to decertify ALPA?

If you vote out one union for another the CBA stays in effect, if you decertify the CBA goes away.
 
UA and NW mechanics voted out IAM and voted in AMFA there contracts stay in place just the union changed. Can you explain how this accrue with them and could not accrue with ALPA and whom every.
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OCCUR?? I assume that is the word you were looking for. You are planning a decert effort of agent and wish to keep their product. If this were a standard vote then maybe and that's a big maybe at that.

The arbitration case is over and we need to move on and get some pre BK wages!! Trying to find ways out of a binding arb will be very costly and most certainly a losing effort...

AWA320
 
The irony of this whole thread is that some people think dumping one union for another would actually change things. I've been a Teamster, APA and ALPA. Each is f-ed up in their own way. Change unions and you only exchange one set of problems for another. Emotions often prevail over logic.
 
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OCCUR?? I assume that is the word you were looking for. You are planning a decert effort of agent and wish to keep their product. If this were a standard vote then maybe and that's a big maybe at that.

The arbitration case is over and we need to move on and get some pre BK wages!! Trying to find ways out of a binding arb will be very costly and most certainly a losing effort...

AWA320


The problem is that the arbitration was flawed. On May 19, 2005, there were more than 300 active USAir pilots who were not counted as such by the arbitrator. Those 300 pilots were in fact flying the Embraer 170, but were doing so on the USAir operating certificate, using the call sign "USAir", paying AAA ALPA dues, holding elected seats on the MEC, and whose W-2's said USAirways on them. Granted AAA ALPA failed to properly recall these pilots in seniority order, and it is a mess of their own making which will be tied up in courts for years to come, but they were active. As much was states by VP Glass in another arbitration, and also by the AAA MEC. Should anyone doubt the fact that those were USAirways aircraft, go to the FAA web site, and look up any of the tail numbers, and you will see that each of them holds a special designation, Embraer 170"SU", the "SU" denotes "special usair" as they were recertified to have a maximum of 76 seats to fit under the DCA slot restrictions.

Anyone wishing to dispute whether these pilots were active or not should do a little research. There is a court case pending in NY District Court for more than a billion dollars against ALPA, which includes DFR, and specifically named RICO statute violations.

Change is in the air....


ALL OR NONE!

SH
 
What the west side doesn't get is that the east side is the majority by two-thirds. East controls the destiny of the entire pilot group union representation. They vote to decertify ALPA and bring in Teamsters it's going to represent the kids in Phoenix too. ALPA is done. Let the idiots at United pay higher dues.

Later,
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