US and IRAN...reach NUKE deal !

[Ifly2]

Without the deal, Iran might be two to three months away from getting a nuclear bomb. With the deal, Iran commits to not pursuing nuclear weapons overall and faces obstacles if it seeks to break its commitment and pursue a nuclear weapon.

Under the deal, Iran will lose 97 percent of its stockpile of highly enriched uranium, the kind needed to make nuclear weapons. It will also give up 14,000 of its 20,000 centrifuges, the machines used to enrich uranium, and agree to only enrich uranium to a level unsuitable for weapons for 15 years.

The deal also curbs Iranian production of plutonium, the other element that can be used to build a bomb. The deal bans plutonium reactors for 15 years and stipulates that Iran must dismantle its current one.

If Iran abides by these rules for 10 years, scientists say it would take them at least 12 months to build a weapon.

While specific restrictions lapse in 10, 15, or 25 years, the deal also binds Iran to permanent measures: committing to not pursue nuclear weapons and agreeing to notify the International Atomic Energy Agency when it decides to build a nuclear facility.

 

[delldude]

 
Iran Airforce. 
 
 
The SU-25 entered service in 1979
Mig -29 entered service in 1983
the F-14 entered service 1974
The F-4 entered service in 1961
The Mirage entered servicein 1961
 
Iran fewl the F-4's in support for sorties against ISIS.  So as far as their airforce in concerned, it does belong in a museum. 

 
 
As reported by the Jerusalem Post:
 
Iran is beginning to reap the fruits of its nuclear deal with the world powers.According to a report in the Taiwanese press, China is set to provide the Islamic Republic with 24 J-10 fighter jets.
In exchange, Iran will permit China access to its largest oilfield for the next 20 years. The total estimated value of the deal is $1 billion.
 
The J-10, which is known by the moniker “Vigorous Dragon,” is an advanced combat aircraft which foreign sources say is based on the original designs of the Lavi, the Israeli prototype whose manufacturing was canceled in the 1980s.
The Lavi was built and developed by Israel Aircraft Industries, though the government eventually decided to terminate the program due to the high costs of production and after the US offered to sell Israel F-16s as an alternative. After the cancellation, the Israeli government resolved to sell the plans to China.
The J-10 is a single-engine aircraft that has a flight range of 2,900 kilometers. Iran is believed to be interested in procuring the jet in order to defend its skies as well as to attack targets throughout the Persian Gulf.
 

And you do? Am I wrong when I state the fact that most of their military equipment belongs in a museum? Thye're not stupid. They know that their air force is out matched not only by the IAF but by the surrounding gulf states. Hell, their most capable aircraft was delivered in the late seventies.

What do you think that farce regarding their "stealth" fighter was all about? Probably a sign of insecurity and to give the illusion of their technological prowess.

http://theaviationist.com/2013/02/04/iran-plane-cannot-fly/

 

[townpete]

 
 
As reported by the Jerusalem Post:
 
Iran is beginning to reap the fruits of its nuclear deal with the world powers.According to a report in the Taiwanese press, China is set to provide the Islamic Republic with 24 J-10 fighter jets.
In exchange, Iran will permit China access to its largest oilfield for the next 20 years. The total estimated value of the deal is $1 billion.
 
The J-10, which is known by the moniker “Vigorous Dragon,” is an advanced combat aircraft which foreign sources say is based on the original designs of the Lavi, the Israeli prototype whose manufacturing was canceled in the 1980s.
The Lavi was built and developed by Israel Aircraft Industries, though the government eventually decided to terminate the program due to the high costs of production and after the US offered to sell Israel F-16s as an alternative. After the cancellation, the Israeli government resolved to sell the plans to China.
The J-10 is a single-engine aircraft that has a flight range of 2,900 kilometers. Iran is believed to be interested in procuring the jet in order to defend its skies as well as to attack targets throughout the Persian Gulf.
 

 
Another progtard talking point blown to shi!t.

 

[700UW]

Where is your proof of American tax payer money being given to Iran?

 

[Ifly2]

It's based on a design cancelled thirty Years ago?

So, forty year old technology


And it's a threat?

To what?

It's own pilots, mostly

 

[777 fixer]

Another progtard talking point blown to shi!t.

It's only blown to sh!t in your mind because you are ignorant of the facts. Load down that J-10 with munitions and see what the range is then. The only way you'll get that kind of range is if you load it down with external fuel tanks. Of course that limits your armament options. The question you should be asking is what's its combat radius.

More importantly how does 24 J-10 fighters compare to what Israel can bring to bear. Here's a hint, not very well.

 

[townpete]

Where is your proof of American tax payer money being given to Iran?

In the pudding.

 

[townpete]

It's only blown to sh!t in your mind because you are ignorant of the facts. Load down that J-10 with munitions and see what the range is then. The only way you'll get that kind of range is if you load it down with external fuel tanks. Of course that limits your armament options. The question you should be asking is what's its combat radius.

More importantly how does 24 J-10 fighters compare to what Israel can bring to bear. Here's a hint, not very well.

 
Nice spin there....all i hear is a lot of blah....blah.....blah
 

 

[delldude]

It's based on a design cancelled thirty Years ago?

So, forty year old technology


And it's a threat?

To what?

It's own pilots, mostly

 
You both sure?
 
You see Chinas new advanced fighter based on our not yet in service F-35?
 

It's only blown to sh!t in your mind because you are ignorant of the facts. Load down that J-10 with munitions and see what the range is then. The only way you'll get that kind of range is if you load it down with external fuel tanks. Of course that limits your armament options. The question you should be asking is what's its combat radius.

More importantly how does 24 J-10 fighters compare to what Israel can bring to bear. Here's a hint, not very well.

 
The J-10 multi-role fighter is the first Chinese-developed combat aircraft that approaches Western fighters in terms of performance and capabilities. It is known as Meng Long or Vigorous Dragon in China and as Firebird in the West.
 
http://www.military-today.com/aircraft/j10.htm
 
Reports of up to 150 aircraft.

 

[Ifly2]

"The J-10, which is known by the moniker “Vigorous Dragon,” is an advanced combat aircraft which foreign sources say is based on the original designs of the Lavi, the Israeli prototype whose manufacturing was canceled in the 1980s."


From petey's fear grenade

 

[delldude]

From my fear grenade:
 
The J-10 multi-role fighter is the first Chinese-developed combat aircraft that approaches Western fighters in terms of performance and capabilities.
 
They do what they do best, steal a design and improve on it.
 
That simple.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

From my fear grenade:

 They do what they do best, steal a design and improve on it.
 
That simple.

And they fail miserably. All they do is make an aircraft that looks like an advanced western developed aircraft in photos.

It is what is under the fuselage and in the cockpit, in the avionics, engines, and armament that makes it the platform that is sub-standard at best.

But you and your sidekick towncrier continue to root for better times to come for the Iranian military.

Maybe you and townPete will finally come up with the evidence of the 2011 depression when he posts the evidence of the USA taxpayer money funding the Iran deal.

 

[townpete]

And they fail miserably. All they do is make an aircraft that looks like an advanced western developed aircraft in photos.

It is what is under the fuselage and in the cockpit, in the avionics, engines, and armament that makes it the platform that is sub-standard at best.

But you and your sidekick towncrier continue to root for better times to come for the Iranian military.

Maybe you and townPete will finally come up with the evidence of the 2011 depression when he posts the evidence of the USA taxpayer money funding the Iran deal.

 

 

[Ms Tree]

And still not a shred of supporting evidence to be seen.  Any chance of that happening in the near future or are you just going to continue to avoid the issue and hope people stop calling oyu out on the BS?  Most folks would have given up but you just seem to keep riding the train all the way. 

 

[delldude]

And they fail miserably. All they do is make an aircraft that looks like an advanced western developed aircraft in photos.

It is what is under the fuselage and in the cockpit, in the avionics, engines, and armament that makes it the platform that is sub-standard at best.

But you and your sidekick towncrier continue to root for better times to come for the Iranian military.

Maybe you and townPete will finally come up with the evidence of the 2011 depression when he posts the evidence of the USA taxpayer money funding the Iran deal.

 
Your naivete shows on two fronts.
 
First, Townpete can do whatever they please without my nod and I could care less of their positions and yours for that matter.
 
Second, Iran is becoming a major player in the ME with eyes on the old Persian Empire once again dominating. Iran keeps close ties with Russia and China and God only knows what tech secrets have been hacked by our lame cybersecurity protocols. You are aware China has been building key electronic components for our military, don't you?
 
American-designed, Chinese-made Actel/Microsemi ProASIC3 A3P250 — commonly known as the PA3 — chip was found by Cambridge researcher, Sergei Skorobogatov, to have a backdoor, or trojan, deliberately built into it. The PA3 is what’s called a Field Reprogrammable Gate Array (FRGA); an almost blank slate of a microchip that can be programmed by its owner to perform a variety of tasks.
http://defensetech.org/2012/05/30/smoking-gun-proof-that-military-chips-from-china-are-infected/
 
Keep on attacking over the 2011 meltdown. You're going to be in for a surprise of epic proportions in the near term.