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True Believers and faithful followers of the Great Prophet Nic, blessings and peace be upon him....can't be properly expected to cease lighting candles, "stuffing" envelopes, and hanging dolls at his holy shrine long enough to bother themselves with any such vile, worldly affairs. Such behavior would be blasphemous indeed..as..it is fortold by omens, portents and prophets in the west, that "the miracle" is yet coming, for the chosen faithful of the west....umm....any day now...well..soon, for sure...well....ummm...errr... so..they yet wander the desert chanting the holy verses "Final and Binding!"..."You won't even get 200 cards!"...."I want the captain seat...and most of all, I want every single east pilot to pay for it"...and, especially based on that last, directly quoted from their apostle Leonidas....let's not forget "Integrity Matters!"....etc.

PS: Should any assessment occur to benefit those slated for furlough....It's evident, based on events thus far, that west "Integrity" will prevent them from putting up any of their precious dollars on behalf of even their own people. True or False? I mean..after all...one can't have anything to do with the Union in any way out west.

Let's first see if the east, since they are the only ones voting, can pass a furlough assessment. Correct me if I am off base but I don't think the east has a good track record in this department.
 
Welcome to the board, recruit. By the way, unless you and I have exchanged bodily fluids at some time in the past, it is NOT appropriate to refer to me as "my dear." Capice?

Now, I suspect that you will be just another vocal tape recorder who spends their days disgorging nonsensical rhetoric supporting ewe-sap-uh and ignoring the reality that is the Nicolau Award.

I do not care how much or how long you or anyone else continues to dance around, thumping your chests and trying to belittle westys. We can handle anything you toss our way. Meanwhile, the Nic is still there and will continue to be there staring Stevie B. and the rest of the east right in the face. And there's very little you can do to avoid it. Some pilots on the west have already been harmed by the actions of the east and more harm is likely to be on the way. But don't think for one second that this will prevent us from realizing what we earned through a legal and unbiased arbitration process.

One other thing that I would like to throw in that really hasn't been covered very much here other than little snippets on holidays and other such times. I'm a pilot, you're a pilot (right?), and for the most part we both (east and west) want the same things. If the two groups would ever come together on common ground, they would be very effective at forging a bright future for the pilot group as a whole. It is extremely unfortunate that the situation has turned out as it has - we are, simply put, screwing ourselves here. A solution must be found soon, or the conditions we find ourselves in will never improve - only worsen - over time.

Personally I feel that this board is just recreation, but it has convinced me of one thing. And that is that a lot of money is going to be spent finding the solution. Regretably, that money is going to be coming out of each of our pockets. It won't take a rocket scientist to figure out where all that money is going to end up. And along the way, there will be a lot of pain felt on both sides.

I know exactly how much pain I am willing to endure, do you?


INTEGRITY MATTERS

NLC


Hi again red staple person....

I've actually been lurking the board third party quite awhile -

reading over the reserves shoulders from time to time at the pad - just never had the time for recreational usage.

I must admit, your reply to me was one of your better posts....thought you may have recruited a ghost writer off the bench.

I'm more up a put up or shut up person - you know, S--- or get off the pot.

It's easy to be sarcastic, make one line posts - take pot shots at people, 'even a pilot could do it'... :shock:

Here's a link that everyone on the board might take ten minutes out of their busy day to watch.

It's about Integrity - and how it really matters.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25250597#25250597
 
Let's first see if the east, since they are the only ones voting, ....

Good point. I suppose that we might as well extend such thinking towards all other issues as well...since you folks out west, solely by your own choice, refuse to trouble yourselves with any such civic responsibility.

West: "My ideas, candidates, whatever didn't prevail!!."
East: "Well...did you actually make them known, submit them for ratification, and vote?"
West: "Nah!...I have far too much "Integrity to try any of that silly stuff!"
East: Sigh..."Words fail me".
 
Why does anyone from the west have to join to have PHX and LAS reps? None of the other reps have been elected. Why doesn't Bradford draft, I mean appoint some solid USAPA lieutenant to represent the Agency Fee payers out west? There are no elections in the foreseeable future and AA737pilot agrees that Bradford can continue to run USAPA as a dictatorship for as long as he wants, so why not?
 
Why does anyone from the west have to join to have PHX and LAS reps? None of the other reps have been elected. Why doesn't Bradford draft, I mean appoint some solid USAPA lieutenant to represent the Agency Fee payers out west? There are no elections in the foreseeable future and AA737pilot agrees that Bradford can continue to run USAPA as a dictatorship for as long as he wants, so why not?
Wooden cross getting heavy?

Really, this martyr deal is old already.
 
Wooden cross getting heavy?
Really, this martyr deal is old already.

"Really, this martyr deal is old already."....As well as extremely uncharacteristic.....I'm just plain, fresh outta' sympathy myself.

QUOTE (oldiebutgoody @ Jun 10 2008, 08:46 PM)
I keep hearing folks complain about the East side's 400+ upgrades, compared to the West's 40+, even though those were due to attrition on the East side. The West SHOULD NOT BE ENTITLED TO THOSE UPGRADES."

luvn: "That answers my question as to the advantage of continuing this civil war." A long-standard variation on the west theme per Leonidas = "I want the captain seat!"/etc, ad nauseum.

QUOTE (EyeInTheSky @ Jun 4 2008, 02:49 AM)
luvn737s, It's pretty easy to tell if a crew denied someone a JS that was booked. Again, you Westies seem to have an issue with electronic proof information."

luvn737s: "Yes, but they have their crackerjack USAPA defense crew to represent their side of the story, so no worries"

QUOTE (elixir @ Jun 4 2008, 01:48 AM)
Correct....but "creating a hostile work environment" is not part of the freedoms of the "host... The company's position is clear, they have an airline to run....the cockpit politics will not drive the company....you may "own" the cockpit while you're in it, but the company "owns' YOU..."

luvn737s: "Word on the street is that the company can't tell you where to live, only that you have to show up on time. How you do that is up to you. No-showing for a flight regardless of the reason will be dealt with much more severely than pointing a finger at someone and saying, "bbbbut, he MADE me late!"
I'd say the best investment in your future would be to look for a home in PHL or CLT. Why put yourself through the stress of worrying about getting to work.
Last I checked, the jumpseat was referred to as a "priviledge" not a right."

luvn737s: May 3: "I would get used to folks trying to undermine USAPA. AWAPPA will be relentless in their pursuit of the End of USAPA. Hey I like that name, is it taken?"

April 29th..still luvn:"I don't think that's the way the west contract reads that a grievance is handled. Remember USAPA is representing west pilots (not USAPA members) and enforcing contract compliance (not east contract). Whether they want to or not."

I won't even delve back into the "serious" "Nyaah, Nyaah" postings from the "Dudes!..We Totally GOT you!", post Nic era.
And now?...Cross carrying, "victim" status? :blink: ...I'm thinking more on the lines of Cross-threaded. 🙄
 
Why does anyone from the west have to join to have PHX and LAS reps? None of the other reps have been elected. Why doesn't Bradford draft, I mean appoint some solid USAPA lieutenant to represent the Agency Fee payers out west? There are no elections in the foreseeable future and AA737pilot agrees that Bradford can continue to run USAPA as a dictatorship for as long as he wants, so why not?

Luvn. I'm a long time reader and lurker. This is only my third post in three years.

You can't be a Rep, if you don't join and pay dues. Kind of like the ALPO thing.

Why should USAPA appoint anyone out west? It's a waste of our money. You don't want to join or be represented.

The USAPA constitution spells out clearly when elections will be held. Read it. But how can we hold elections when no one out West will join, pay dues or run for office?

Dictatorship? I don't think so. USAPA decisions are made by the Beepers (BPRs), not by the president.
 
June 14, 2008 CHARLOTTE PILOTS USAPA UPDATE





Company Reduction Announcement:

By now we have all heard the recent news releases that outline our management's plan for the near-term future. The announcement of impending furloughs and cut backs on the eve of negotiations is and has been used in prior time to manufacture negotiating leverage. That being said the threat to any pilot’s family and livelihood is taken very seriously by your Charlotte Representatives and rest assured we will do everything in our power to protect our pilots from these actions during these uncertain times.

Know that we do have a minimum fleet count of aircraft that are protected in the transition agreement that includes 202 east aircraft (not counting the E-190) and 120 west aircraft. Current fleet estimated size is as follows: East 204; West 128. These fleet numbers do allow our management to reduce the east by 2 aircraft and the west by 8 aircraft for a total loss of 10 aircraft. Our management announced that these reductions will cause 300 pilot furloughs. Let’s see, United reduces its fleet 100 aircraft with a 1000 pilot reduction, US Airways reduces 10 aircraft and 300 pilots furloughs???? Does anybody here but us see that the numbers are a bit skewed? That being said, management could reduce block hours flown by the remaining aircraft to further reduce the head count to a specified number stated in the transition agreement but we hope they will not return to the days of old where their inefficient use of company assets caused the single driving force to our high seat mile costs. All one has to visualize is a management team that not only utilizes the maximum from its assets (which by the way includes all the employees), formulates a business plan for the current environment, and then sees that the most profitable airline in the history of aviation continues to move forward in a progressive manner with the highest paid pilots while attaining the lowest costs in the industry. Doug and Scott, can you say Southwest?

Your entire BPR and Officer team are on top of this situation and will use all of our resources to protect each and every one of you from being held hostage as we pursue your new agreement. Remember that we still have 11 E-190s coming by January 2009 which should balance out yesterday’s onerous announcement. No matter how you cut the mustard, we do not see how the numbers with our current staffing equate to the Parker/Kirby announcement, unless they intend to increase seat cost by reducing daily block hours on the fleet. Manufacturing negotiating leverage by holding pilots hostage will be dimly viewed. And in the eyes of your Charlotte Representatives, that ploy is not an acceptable tool in the upcoming negotiations. Stay focused on Safety, ensure passenger comfort, and maintain your focus on your job as these events unfold.

BPR Meeting

Your USAPA Board of Pilot Representatives met in Charlotte this week on Tuesday June 10 and Wednesday June 11, 2008. Unfortunately once again we still have had no participation from Phoenix and Las Vegas. We worked diligently to craft strategies and concepts to present to Management as we move forward negotiating a new contract. It has been and will continue to be the Board's dedicated mission to improve and protect the working conditions and career expectations for all pilots at US Airways. The process to develop these strategies incorporated by your Board of Pilot Representatives has included input from line pilots involved in their new Union's mission and direction, and the Board has discussed and fully investigated each concern. Your Pilot Representatives are totally committed to an open and democratic process.

We started with a briefing by the officers on activities concerning membership and billing. The accounting process is complete and the billing process will commence on Monday of next week. Those of you on dues check off will receive a bill for the balance owed from April 18 until May 1. For those of you not on dues check off you will receive a bill for all monies owed since April 18, 2007 to the present billing cycle. These dues are calculated on the 1.95% figure used by the former bargaining agent and when we are fully operational the goal is to substantially reduce that number to accommodate the more economical operation of your new Union. Rest assured your Charlotte Representatives will work diligently to ensure the most cost efficient use of your dues monies and work to reduce your dues contributions as soon as operationally practicable.

Non-Members will still be responsible for germane dues. Currently most activities of your new union are germane and non-member’s dues will equal a figure the same as member dues; the difference being that non-members will not be eligible to vote or participate in the union process. After 60 days if dues obligations are not met, due to agency shop policy USAPA will pursue all avenues towards collection which, as per Section 29 of your working agreements (both East and West), could subject the pilot to disciplinary action up to and including termination.

Former Empire Pilots

Several of the former Empire Pilots were present at this meeting to address the BPR regarding fixing the wrong that occurred 23 years ago in the Piedmont/Empire integration. The group was attempting to recapture their Empire Date of Hire from this previous merger which would have required opening up your seniority list to reordering prior to moving forward with contract negotiations. The board spent several hours on Tuesday afternoon and again on Wednesday morning in Executive Session with the Merger Committee and Council, with a final determination by the Board that it would not be in the best interests of any of our pilots to revisit a seniority list that had been certified and implemented. Consistent with industry standard practice we will not change any pilot seniority list that has become a part of a working contract. In our opinion (and that of legal counsel) such an action would expose all of our pilots to risk in the immediate future. Regarding the Empire situation, as well as any previous integration or seniority claims, it was determined that the certified lists that have been in place on both the East and West properties have been in place and functional, and we will move on to ensure no more mistakes created by our past bargaining agent will occur into the future. Simply put, the liability of reordering either list as a past precedence was too large to risk the future of the pilots of US Airways. The entire Board understood the situation and the complexities associated with this emotional issue. After lengthy debate and evaluation the Board decided to move forward with our current certified lists.

Negotiating Advisory Board Update

Prior to entering into a strategy session with the BPR, the Negotiating Advisory Committee briefed all pilots in attendance on their activities and upcoming events. The committee has been reviewing the entire contract including sections previously marked closed under ALPA. While the committee found some of the previously T/A’d sections were adequate others will require revisiting. One of the unacceptable inadequacies agreed-to by the previous negotiating committee was a pay cap of 99 hours, that's right 99 hours. As if that wasn't enough, there were also provisions allowing a pilot to fly an additional 9 hours resulting in an actual pay cap of 108. We think you would all agree that during the past 7 years, US Airways pilots have given more than their share and will never agree to commuter style work rules such as a 108 hour pay cap. Remember our management in now considering furloughs!!! That being stated the Committee is preparing to meet the Company informally on June 16, 2008 prior to formal negotiations that will begin on the week of June 23, 2008. At this time all sections are considered open and subject to future negotiations by the committee.

Your Negotiating Committee was charged with the following resolution from your BPR:

08- 26a Negotiating Advisory Committee Authorization


WHEREAS the Board of Pilot Representatives has charged the Negotiating Advisory Committee with reviewing the history of negotiations aimed at securing a single employment agreement for the merged US Airways and determining those issues that require further discussions with management; and

WHEREAS the Committee has provided the BPR its recommendations as to issues that should be pursued through further negotiations with the Company,

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED the Negotiating Advisory Committee is authorized to commence negotiations with US Airways management.

Motion passes

Merger Committee Update

We spent the remainder of the afternoon and Wednesday morning with the Merger Committee discussing strategies and all the prospects that were needed to allow us to move forward and provide a fair and equitable list for all the pilots of US Airways. We previously touched on Empire discussions that we debated at length during this briefing. The end result to move forward with our current certified lists was our only option and the decision was made by the board with the following resolutions.

After the full briefing we passed the following 3 Merger related Resolutions.

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AI 08-27b

Motion Koseruba/Britt:

WHEREAS the Merger Committee has prepared and presented a methodology for the development of a comprehensive Date of Hire seniority list to the Board of Pilot Representatives, and

WHEREAS the Board of Pilot Representatives desires to create a fair and equitable implementation of this list, and

WHEREAS a set of conditions and restrictions appropriate for the implementation of the Date of Hire seniority list has been created by the Merger Committee,

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the BPR approves the creation of the Date of Hire list with conditions and restrictions as presented by the Merger Committee.

Motion Passes

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AI 08-27c Charging of Merger Committee

Motion McKee/Peters

WHEREAS the Merger Committee has presented a methodology for the creation of a Date of Hire seniority list, and

WHEREAS the Board of Pilot Representatives has approved the methodology for the creation of a Date of Hire list, and

WHEREAS the Merger Committee has constructed a set of conditions and restrictions to ensure a fair and equitable implementation of a Date of Hire seniority list, and

WHEREAS the Board of Pilot Representatives has accepted the conditions and restrictions as presented,

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Board of Pilot Representatives directs the Merger Committee, working in concert with the Negotiating Advisory Committee, to create contract language necessary to ensure implementation of a Date of Hire list that includes the conditions and restrictions approved by the BPR.

Motion passes unanimously

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AI 08-27a

Motion McKee/Westerberg:

WHEREAS the Merger Committee has screened various candidates for the position of Merger Counsel, and after careful consideration recommends that the Association retain the services of Seham, Seham, Meltz and Petersen for the position of Merger Counsel,

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the BPR approves the hiring of the firm of Seham, Seham, Meltz and Petersen to serve as Merger Counsel for USAPA.

Motion passes unanimously

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Communications

Scott Theuer and Arnie Gentile then briefed the board on the status of the Communications Committee. The new website is moving forward and we should be seeing the new product in the very near future. As we begin the Negotiations phase to your next contract and working conditions we need to focus on solid, accurate communications and we need your help and support to reach our goals of attaining the contract that you can not only live with but afford. We need you to participate and stay informed. Remember the following points and get involved in the process:

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Our Negotiating Advisory Committee needs your support.
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We are returning to the table in less than two weeks.
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A majority of US Airways pilots are at the absolute bottom of industry pay.
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It’s not what the Company says, it’s what they do that matters.
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It’s not what the pilots say, it’s what they do that matters.
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Difficult as things seem, Revenue Passenger Miles and load factors are up and analysts are already predicting 2009 as the “recovery year†– our pilots should expect an industry-standard contract and settle for nothing less.
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Remember what the FOM requires - “Safety, Comfort, Schedule, Efficiencyâ€
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Stay informed.

The Rest of the Story

The remainder of Wednesday after noon was used to close up open items from the previous meeting that were tabled until this meeting. These items dealt with the wearing of the new uniform, as all three of us have heard from you regarding this issue. We also dealt with the future use of a call sign and did the background research on this with the FAA to determine if we were going to take a position on this item. After debate and consideration your board passed the following resolutions:

AI 08-16 New Uniform

Motion Koseruba/Westberg:

WHEREAS USAPA believes that management should not gain benefits from the merger of US Airways and America West unless and until the long outstanding pilots’ issues are resolved including equal pay, work rules, vacation, and many others, and

WHEREAS the wearing of a common uniform is a step toward the completion of that merger and yet major pilots’ issues remain unresolved, and

WHEREAS the previous collective bargaining agent raised a dispute on this issue and that the grievance was denied by an arbitrator,

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that in the interest of moving forward to set a positive tone for the upcoming negotiations that the USAPA Board of Pilot Representatives acknowledges the requirement that the US Airways pilots begin wearing the new uniform by July 1.

Motion passes

AI 08-15 FAA Call Sign for the Combined Carrier

Motion Stein/Westberg:

WHEREAS US Airways and America West are completing a merger and a single FAA call sign will be needed for the combined carrier, and

WHEREAS the FAA would like to see a common call sign for both East and West Combined Operations for the benefit of safety as well as to reduce confusion to ATC and other interested parties, and

WHEREAS Advisory Circular 8900.1, Section B. The Telephony Designator (Call Sign) states “…Usually, the company name or a pronounceable abbreviation of the company name is used in combination with ATC facilities and operating services. An example is ‘American 411’â€. And that “...a call sign should not consist of more than two words and three syllables.â€

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the BPR endorses and recommends that the company adopt a single FAA Call Sign that complies with AC 8900.1 for both East and West Operations.

Message from your Council Leadership

Once again we are excited and proud to represent you at the BPR. It was obvious to all that this union is truly being run by US Airways pilots through their base representatives. We worked hard and accomplished many of our initial goals. While communications to our pilots remains essential we know that active participation by all our members is the key to our future success. We again invite you to take a leadership role in the participation of our new union and will deliver you the tools to contribute.

Management will attempt to use the increased fuel prices to lower your expectations in the upcoming negotiations. Remember that when you are filling your vehicle at the pump and that total runs towards $100.00 you are unable to pass on that cost since you are the consumer. Realize that as the dollar falls so does your buying power, not only at the pump but in every consumer product you buy. Fuel costs are being added daily to the products your family needs and at the end of the day you are working for the absolute lowest pay levels in the industry and making on average 12.5% less than other pilots flying for the same company. Remember that when you were hired and into the mid 1980’s Captains you flew with were making $156.00 in 1985 dollars. Remember that hostages were taken in 1996 during negotiations and it appears we are dealing with the same type of crisis negotiating tactics, only with a different management group. Manufacturing negotiating capital is not acceptable to your BPR. Stay informed, fly safe, and ensure your passengers' comfort. Make solid Captain decisions every day, and be a good Union Member. Let’s all look after each other.

We are planning our first Charlotte Council Meeting for June 30, 2008. Once we finalized the agenda, time, and place we will send out the official notice via E-mail and website. We look forward to seeing you then.

Once again our contact numbers are as follows Dave Koseruba at (980) 875-7645, dkoseruba@usairlinepilots.org; Bill McKee (980) 875-7644, bmckee@usairlinepilots.org; and Steve Greif at (704) 497-7246, sgreif@usairlinepilots.org.

Thank you for your continued support.

Fly Safe,

Dave, Steve, and Bill
 
You do not think is a correct assumption on your part. Us Airways pilots have always done their best to help furloughed pilots with medical insurance.

Us Airways former fuloghed pilots medical program, recent history click here

Thanks for setting the record straight, Nostradamus. Just another cheap shot by a westie.

Probation pilots excepted, does ableoneable really think we're going to pass an assessment to support those who refuse to join, refuse to pay and try to destroy our union?

We might not even need to pass an assessment to support our furloughed members in good standing anyway. With more than 2800 members already voluntarily paying dues, that's over $400,000 a month. ALPO doesn't get a cut, our Reps don't stay in the Ritz-Carlton and our MEC officers aren't chowing down on FPL or eating steak dinners on the union dollar. Besides, we only have 125 East pilots to support.
 
Why should USAPA appoint anyone out west? It's a waste of our money. You don't want to join or be represented.

USAPA still has to represent non-members. How can they claim Agency Fees, but have no one to provide the services that those fees pay for?

Dictatorship? I don't think so. USAPA decisions are made by the Beepers (BPRs), not by the president.

The President appointed the BPR's which is in essence a dictatorship. Tell me what the trigger is for elections per the C&BL's. Bradford is taking full advantage of the blank check the east has given him, and I don't think he'll give it up one minute before he is forced to. You haven't denied that there is no difference between the east reps that are hand-picked by Bradford and any west reps he would choose.

Beepers, More like Bradford's Personal Rubberstamp.
:down:
 
trunion,

When you choose to omit relevant contextual matter, paraphrase another's writings and then place quotation marks around the result you are creating what is tantamount to a lie.

And that, sir, is exactly what you did.

So yes:


INTEGRITY MATTERS

NLC
Well, well, well..
too inflamed to even check the facts before you "light-off" on somebody? I did..it's a direct quote, no less.

hmmm
pppfffttt...

integrity indeed.
 
USAPA still has to represent non-members. How can they claim Agency Fees, but have no one to provide the services that those fees pay for?.....



Glad you asked, until a few guys out west "man-up" (without being threatened with a blanket party as before)....you may afford your concerns to these folks who will pursue the business of proper dues-paying members until/unless the west decides to participate.

USAPA has been advised that, while Jeffrey Freund of the law firm of Bredhoff & Kaiser will be representing AWAPPA and AWAPPA's directors in the current lawsuit, none of the other individual pilot defendants will receive representation from that firm.

If any of these individual pilot defendants are interested in expeditiously resolving the pending claims against them, they (or their individual attorneys) should contact Lee Seham at Seham, Seham, Meltz and Petersen, http://www.ssmplaw.com, 914-997-1346


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Current openings:
West Grievance Liaison - contact Grievance Chairperson Tracy Parrella - 877-678-7272 x717 tlparrella@hotmail.com
West Safety Liaison - contact Safety Chairman Tom Kubik - 877-678-7272 x715 - tkubik@usairlinepilots.org
West Contract Support Liaison - contact USAPA Contract Hotline Rep Steve Meyers - 877-678-7272 x723
West Furlough Committee member - send an email to Furlough Administrator Courtney Borman cborman737@cs.com


Now, I guess these services may be available to the non-union pilots only until such time as they are terminated by the company...

But you'd probably have to call the union line to find out....

(that is unless your band of thugs is still tying it up with thousands of phone calls in an attempt to bankrupt the union...)

In which case, yes, you are on your own.
 
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(that is unless your band of thugs is still tying it up with thousands of phone calls in an attempt to bankrupt the union...)

In which case, yes, you are on your own.

So the union is in financial jeopardy due to excess phone bills? Perhaps they should be forced to post a bond to insure the dues that have been paid.

If a single phone line is the only means by which a union can carry out it's responsibilities, I'd say that was a meager attempt at protecting ALL US pilots.

As you are soliciting out of court settlements, I assume you are a principal or officer of USAPA. I'll make a note of that.
 
So the union is in financial jeopardy due to excess phone bills? Perhaps they should be forced to post a bond to insure the dues that have been paid.

If a single phone line is the only means by which a union can carry out it's responsibilities, I'd say that was a meager attempt at protecting ALL US pilots.

As you are soliciting out of court settlements, I assume you are a principal or officer of USAPA. I'll make a note of that.
You do that...it's an excerpt off of the union website...thanks for the "promotion"....but I'm likely furloughed, so, uh, that'd be a "no"...but you go ahead with your misled ways...

And you have clearly run out of rebuttals since you have resorted to quantifying the number of requisite phone lines you feel is appropriate for a union you want no part of...

classic...
you're actually making me laugh now...thanks.

PS: I never said the phone bills were a problem, I just warned you that your gangsters might have the lines busy, so you may not be able to get that dire assistance from the union you don't belong to...

( I do like your creative embellishments and creations from fantasy though)
 
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