Ways to generate revenue...

[CGAft]

Charge the Non Revs?? There are two things that employees have...flight for free IF A SEAT A SEAT IS AVAILABLE and their SENIORITY. Its bad enough that retirees are put below active employees and that my wife and kids fly without my seniority when im not with them. I travel all the time bucause I have too and NON REVING is last on my plate come vacation time. If the idoitic suggestion of charging were to come true.........id assume the writer would suggest a recruiting office somewhere in Mexico. I wonder if I could sell my seniority?? 23 years!! But the buyers couldnt near afford it hehe.

 

[CGAft]

We charge $25 for the second bag because weight costs fuel. We charge for overweight bags because weight costs money.

What do people do when they fly, do nothing when they arrive? They don't spend any money? You probably spend more than $30 dollars when you get there, but still consider this a bank buster?

Flying just to fly is just waste, pollution, glutteny. This isn't Tempe mindset, it my personal opinions.

Again its a benefit. If the plane is going so am I. Is it extra weight yes. And im not Tempe....far from it. Your comment on glutteny is laughable as is pollution and waste. People do get hired at a low wage but take advantage of flying to BOS for a lobster dinner. Also my personal opinions. Also you mention flying just to fly....the airplane is going with or without the non-rev. It will burn the fuel and cause noise issues and as you say glutteny.

 

[aredeeyou22]

How about a bake sale?

 

[BuffaloJoe]

I believe that the post asked "Ways to generate Revenue"

Sell the America West name to Mesa!

 

[Zarah]

We charge $25 for the second bag because weight costs fuel. We charge for overweight bags because weight costs money.

What do people do when they fly, do nothing when they arrive? They don't spend any money? You probably spend more than $30 dollars when you get there, but still consider this a bank buster?

Flying just to fly is just waste, pollution, glutteny. This isn't Tempe mindset, it my personal opinions.

The reasons employees travel is as wide and varied as the reason passengers travel.

Not every trip is a leisure trip.

To imply that a parent who is divorced and uses their benefits to exercise their visitation rights with their children as gluttony is wrong.

Assuming that employees have anything left to give is ridiculous. Workable longterm solutions will come when people start to think outside of the box and stop trying to rifle through the employees wallets.

I am not living high on the hog. I am in fact, living paycheck-to-paycheck. Give me something that I can do that does not involve taking food out of my kids mouth and we will talk.

 

[whatkindoffreshhell]

This thread is a reflection of why USair has serious problems.

Forget about raising more revenue from your employees. You need new revenue streams from the REAL WORLD people (a group that does not include your high-maintenance fffocusers -- those people whine as much as the employees).

USair should sell 24.9% of itself to a wise foreign airline. New revenue and management input.

If your much-ballyhooed east coast network and clever employees are worth it.

I don't think so.

You are in the same boat as UA. Bereft of a future plan and hoping for a miracle from the outside. Again.

 

[phx___it]

I respectfully beg to differ as you work and are indoctrinated on a daily basis by the "High Cost of Cheap" crowd in Tempe. The Price of everything and value of nothing has unwittingly become your mantra.

Yep, because I work at Tempe must mean that we all think alike.
Prejudice is a wonderful thing and of course you should replace Doug because you can run the airline better. Jeez.

So OK, don't change the free benifit because as I understand it, that's why you work for US Airways.

 

[philly rocks]

Coffee vendors at the ticket counter that also sell big duffles for 5.00 that you can cram both of your suitcases in....

 

[InternationalShannon]

What about charging employees for a higher boarding priority for one segment? Say, $20 or $40 or whatever it was in that post? It's not charging to travel, it's charging for a little more convenience, and I'm sorry - - maybe I'm not burnt out enough to throw a hissy about this, but if you tell me that there's 12 sa3's in the 80's hire date ahead of me and I need to get to PHX for something important, you'd better believe I'd shell out a small fee to jump ahead of them.

I can't afford to BUY a freaking ticket making these wages?
You guys get mad now but I bet 80% of you would sell out and pay the nominal fee if it was during your vacation and you really wanted to get there.

 

[hp_fa]

Shannon, how does it work if you buy a higher priority like you spoke of and then someone senior finds out you are ahead and then buys their own higher priority? Do they go in front of you and/or do you get the money back and/or you wait for the next flight at the higher priority?

 

[InternationalShannon]

Shannon, how does it work if you buy a higher priority like you spoke of and then someone senior finds out you are ahead and then buys their own higher priority? Do they go in front of you and/or do you get the money back and/or you wait for the next flight at the higher priority?

Maybe there could be a cutoff? Like 30 minutes prior. That way you don't play that game of one upping each other. I dont know. Just a suggestion. It could be an SA2P or something so not to deterr those using their SA1s.

 

[FlightChic]

I agree with someone who said charge for non-revs...Charge a nominal $30 charge. It won't hurt the employees, it'll help the bottom line and it'll keep people from just hopping around for no reason.

Or start them off at SA7P and for $20 dollars move up to an SA3P and for $20 more an SA2P.

Are you kidding me? Do you know how many of our employees commute? Many have been displaced and aren't in a position to move because of their housing and family situation. Then there are others who are making poverty level wages and can't afford to move to expensive cities such as LGA, DCA, BOS, etc...You all can say "then why don't you just move to your new base" none of us really know where to live since we are always being threatened of being displaced. You can also say "Why don't you get a new job that pays more?" Well, some don't quit because they feel stuck. Some don't quit because they are waiting it out for retirement. Others don't quit because they are pursuing other things aside from flying and aren't ready to give up the insurance and benefits. All in all, we shouldn't charge our own employees to come to work. That is just "plane" wrong. :down: If you are not a commuter, you would never understand...and uprooting your whole family and moving just isn't feasible, especially when one has been displaced and furloughed multiple times. After the first couple of times moving, you finally learn that as soon as you get comfortable in one place, it's time to move somewhere else. No matter what you do, you can't win.

 

[FlightChic]

That's the point of the $30 charge. It would keep the people that fly only because it's free off the planes. Too many fly on a whim.
Hopefully $30 won't kill anyone.

I did give the alternative to pay more for a higher priority. That way for someone that really needed to fly they could move up to SA2P for $40.

I really guess it's a bad idea to come to this forum and ask anything an employee can give back to the company.

It would kill all of us junior reserves who commute and who make $1100 a month. If they charged $30 per flight, we would be paying anywhere between $240-$300 per month. Many cannot even afford to eat, let alone pay to go to work. We would all quit and we would have f/as with 20+ years seniority on reserve being quick called at midnight for a transatlantic flight and at all hours of the day and night since they would be the "junior" flight attendants. They would only be flying 30 hours a month unless they did ETB trips because the greedy senior BHs would all fly 150+ hours each month leaving nothing for the rest of the flight attendants on reserve. Hmmmm. Maybe it's not such a bad idea afterall. JK

 

[Crzipilot]

As flight chic was saying, completely agree. Obviously someone has a little bean counter blood running through their veins. Do you realize how many flight crew, mechs. and even ramp.agents commute???? Move??? Hell how many bases have been closed in the past 10 years? How many displacements have happened? Do you have any clue? It used to be the line of....you chose to commute so deal with it. Well anymore, the company has forced people to commute. Pickup your family and move every 5 years if your senior......every few months if your junior. Some of us end up commuting 20 times or more a month (one way) So just say you get stuck with a bunch of out and backs, can't trip improve, you could see 32 commutes.. Times that by your favorable 20 or 30 $$$ and you come up with a sizable number to work for this company. Old captain once said. I don't bring my own money to work. I.E. the company wants my services etc...they pay for that.

 

[SolidCactus]

I have an idea... ENFORCE customer of size. It is absolutely rediculous that really huge people are not forced to buy two seats. WN enforces it. Actually, their policy is great. I travel often with a guy who is oversized, and the way the policy works there is, you buy two tickets, and if the plane doesnt fill up, they refund the second seat. If the plane is full, you pay for both seats. They give you a sign to place on the seat that says "Seat Reserved". This way, nobody ever ends up sitting next to someone that is really large for HOURS.

It's only fair. Im not a small guy, but I'm not very large either. I cant think of how many times I've had to sit next to people that are so large, im up against their arm the entire time.