Were Presidents Really Kicked Out of Court

[eolesen]

Not that its any of your business but why do you ask?

Really E you ought to see how many yahoos run around tul on UB and our pres is on UB everyday of his term as is the VP and tres and all E Board nembers so what Bob does is his locals business not ours

Well, that's part of the point in my asking. You'd think that with all the costs of lawyers, etc. that the union would be a little more concerned with keeping all the other costs to the membership down. Having a local president sitting in the courthouse seems to be a waste of the members' money, especially if he's not required to be there.

 

[TWU informer]

Well, that's part of the point in my asking. You'd think that with all the costs of lawyers, etc. that the union would be a little more concerned with keeping all the other costs to the membership down. Having a local president sitting in the courthouse seems to be a waste of the members' money, especially if he's not required to be there.

And if we were not still strapped with a Union that fails to communicate the facts, and instead feeds us information designed to manipulate a certain outcome, then the Local President would not have to attend.

But given the reality of our worthless Union, I not only give personal Thanks to Bob Owens for being there, but I would bet the Local 562 Membership is thrilled that he went regardless of the cost of doing so.

 

[Buck]

Can the membership of TWU Local 514


se·cede

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 [si-seed] ​

verb (used without object), se·ced·ed, se·ced·ing.
to withdraw formally from an alliance, federation, or association,as from a political union, a religious organization, etc.

and join another local?​

 

[Chuck Schalk]

Erolsen, I don't recall you paying dues to local 562?.
You are telling us that Bob Owens was wasting the locals money by being at the bankruptcy hearings. It was our membership and the Executive Board who wanted him there and although we appreciate your imput, it is uncessary as we got this one.

I am surprised no one from Tulsa came to such an important event. I guess all their UB time is for more important issues.

FYI: It was an interactive courtroom setting not just sitting their watching

 

[OldGuy@AA]

I am surprised no one from Tulsa came to such an important event. I guess all their UB time is for more important issues.

Maybe because all our leaders at Local 514 wanted a yes vote on our industry lagging T/A. Or maybe because we in Tulsa are stupid enough to elect a Fleet Service Clerk as our Prez. and FS has a deal. He has not been seen, but the way, since the no vote was verified. Neither has our V.P. Maybe they are getting instructions from Little Jimmy for the next attemp to fleece the membership. I am glad Bob was there also, I just wish he was president of Local 514. But at least you still get a free soda pop and popcorn at the meetings.

 

[Overspeed]

Well, that's part of the point in my asking. You'd think that with all the costs of lawyers, etc. that the union would be a little more concerned with keeping all the other costs to the membership down. Having a local president sitting in the courthouse seems to be a waste of the members' money, especially if he's not required to be there.

Since Bob is a President he is covered under the Baker letter (the one that is being eliminated) so he is paid by AA to be there. No cost to the local.

 

[TWU informer]

Since Bob is a President he is covered under the Baker letter (the one that is being eliminated) so he is paid by AA to be there. No cost to the local.

But if the piece of crap LBO were to be ratified, for every 10 of those paid by AA, 3.5 heads would be outsourced.

And you were advocating a YES vote.

 

[Tex-Mech]

Can the membership of TWU Local 514


se·cede

 ​

 [si-seed] ​

verb (used without object), se·ced·ed, se·ced·ing.
to withdraw formally from an alliance, federation, or association,as from a political union, a religious organization, etc.

and join another local?​

We will soon have plenty of room for you to join us here at 567. :blink:

 

[Overspeed]

But if the piece of crap LBO were to be ratified, for every 10 of those paid by AA, 3.5 heads would be outsourced.

And you were advocating a YES vote.

I never advocated yes, only educated people on the facts. The fact is if the deal is abrogated it will be 4 out of 10. Are you saying the outsourcing percentage will make the ratio less than 3.5 out of 10? I can't wait to see the OS% language to be less than 35% by the time this process is done. Face it, work is getting outsourced at industry standard levels of around 40%. It's coming.

 

[aapitbull]

I never advocated yes, only educated people on the facts. The fact is if the deal is abrogated it will be 4 out of 10. Are you saying the outsourcing percentage will make the ratio less than 3.5 out of 10? I can't wait to see the OS% language to be less than 35% by the time this process is done. Face it, work is getting outsourced at industry standard levels of around 40%. It's coming.

That cannot be the team twu promised they would not let the company farm out our work and god how they whined about 38% outsourcing limit at NWA but now its industry standard not the twu fault. give me a break. and owe yea we should vote for it do not fight to try to stop it.

 

[Airlinesforever]

Interesting how when our 777's go to PEK, they are doing a 36hr turn, when they go to PVG, it's a 4hr turn, something is going on over there.

 

[Buck]

I never advocated yes, only educated people on the facts. The fact is if the deal is abrogated it will be 4 out of 10. Are you saying the outsourcing percentage will make the ratio less than 3.5 out of 10? I can't wait to see the OS% language to be less than 35% by the time this process is done. Face it, work is getting outsourced at industry standard levels of around 40%. It's coming.

Why is it that you are always educating people?

Just like my Supervisor, assigning Flagship University courses on a subject that does not pertain to my job and it is rather obvious that he has not had any background in leadership himself.

 

[amt66]

Interesting how when our 777's go to PEK, they are doing a 36hr turn, when they go to PVG, it's a 4hr turn, something is going on over there.

The work is going to be outsourced no matter what . It's up to us to make sure the work is up to standards. If an A check comes to me I will make sure the tires and brakes are within limits if not I will write it up and if it is a common occurance I will contact the FAA!

 

[TWU informer]

Why is it that you are always educating people?

Just like my Supervisor, assigning Flagship University courses on a subject that does not pertain to my job and it is rather obvious that he has not had any background in leadership himself.

Don't you know by now, the TWU stooges are going to save us from ourselves, because we don't see the big picture?

 

[TWU informer]

I never advocated yes, only educated people on the facts. The fact is if the deal is abrogated it will be 4 out of 10. Are you saying the outsourcing percentage will make the ratio less than 3.5 out of 10? I can't wait to see the OS% language to be less than 35% by the time this process is done. Face it, work is getting outsourced at industry standard levels of around 40%. It's coming.

I dont remember you telling us that for every 10 paid stooges F'ing off down at the hall, that 3.5 0r 4.0 heads would be outsourced.

Once this crap is forced down our throats, then everyone of you lazy S.O.B's are going back to work!!!!