2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[freedom]

You are a suppressed human being. Suppressed by your own mind and in fear of the company you work for !

What you call fear I call effective risk managment ...you must go to the casino a lot.

 

[freedom]

How about you read this: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/republic-air-says-reaches-tentative-193903163.html

And how quickly can they be replaced vs bag throwers ?

 

[cltrat]

Well thank you, he is a poster child of whats wrong with people who live in fear.

I agree totally
I'd rather have to find something else than lose my self respect for myself or that of my co workers by scabbing.

 

[mike33]

What you call fear I call effective risk managment ...you must go to the casino a lot.

The company slaps you in the face and you turn the other cheek... For christs sake woman....strike back..P***y!
 
  I haven't been to the casinos in 15 yrs......maybe longer

 

[700UW]

And how quickly can they be replaced vs bag throwers ?

Lots of pilots on layoff.
 
You are a coward, bottom line, you would rather live in fear and answer to the man than to be man and stand up for yourself and your coworkers, but I would expect anything less from you, the cheerleader or the pied piper who led his coworkers out the door for money.
 
Its your turn now.

 

[Kev3188]

You know how many years I went to baggage handler school for ? Zero ...

You want to know how much in training it cost me out of my own pocket to learn to throw bags ? Nada ...

Don't compare skilled labor to unskilled and pretend like its the same .

Please don't start with the "I'm just a ramper" nonsense. Seriously.

We bring value to the table at our respective cariers. We help generate revenue. We deserve respect.

 

[737823]

Please don't start with the "I'm just a ramper" nonsense. Seriously.

We bring value to the table at our respective cariers. We help generate revenue. We deserve respect.

Agreed.

,,, and I was pissed at them for calling me a "bag smasher, "overpaid' etc,,, Unfortunately there are those among us who feel that the best way to raise ones self is to try and lower others. As a group mechanics must learn that everyone has a function in life, if we want things to run smoothly somebody has to load the bags, do the cleaning and other jobs that may not require a lot of training or skill but they still should be able to live well off their contribution to making things work. If we feel we aren't making enough to live well then obviously neither are those who are making even less, that's not where the problem is, the problem is those at the top that take way more than what they contribute leaving less for everyone else. Think about it, Al Blackman has been keeping airplanes safe for over 70 years, Horton comes in, bankrupts the company with $5 billion in cash and the largest order for aircraft in history, and he will walk away with a bonus that's several times more than Al made over his 70 plus years. Something isn't right here people. Baggage handlers didn't destroy our careers, people like Horton did. You have to remember that for people like Horton the salary is one source of their wealth, investments is another, so he collects more in salary and compounds his wealth through investments and the profits from investments are being driven through the concessions we give. AA brought in $7billion more with 40,000 less people, and all those who remained earned a lot less, so all that money that would have went to wages, plus the extra $7 billion in revenue went somewhere and it wasn't to us or baggage handlers.Its going to people like Horton, not just through the wages and compensation we hear about but through the earnings of all those other companies who absorbed all the saving from our concessions, 40,000 less jobs and the $7billion in increased revenue. The $20million is just the tip of the iceberg.

Josh

 

[WeAAsles]

Freedom you really shouldn't denigrate your own profession. Our schooling is OJT. We are actually harder to replace as a full workforce than some of those that have a licensed profession in many ways. Bags needing to be loaded in DFW can't be loaded in China or Guatemala either. Being a part of a Union means that the collective makes the decisions, not the individual. Because of that at least for us we still make substantially more than our non Union counterparts and the RLA protects us in that regard. Imagine being Non Union and living in a "Right To Work" State. So if the collective seeks "Self Help" and you chose to be an individual against the collective you might not enjoy their very long memory of that?

Basically your membership chose it's leaders and those leaders have a path they aim to take. If an individual is not willing to follow that path than maybe they shouldn't be working here in the first place? We were all told it was a Union job when we hired on and we chose to take it and stay with it.

 

[freedom]

Lots of pilots on layoff.
 
You are a coward, bottom line, you would rather live in fear and answer to the man than to be man and stand up for yourself and your coworkers, but I would expect anything less from you, the cheerleader or the pied piper who led his coworkers out the door for money.
 
Its your turn now.

Lots of pilots on layoff.
 
You are a coward, bottom line, you would rather live in fear and answer to the man than to be man and stand up for yourself and your coworkers, but I would expect anything less from you, the cheerleader or the pied piper who led his coworkers out the door for money.
 
Its your turn now.

Most epic comment ever,I almost fell.down in laughter ....

 

[700UW]

Laughter?
 
Its the truth, shall I dig up your posts?

 

[freedom]

Freedom you really shouldn't denigrate your own profession. Our schooling is OJT. We are actually harder to replace as a full workforce than some of those that have a licensed profession in many ways. Bags needing to be loaded in DFW can't be loaded in China or Guatemala either. Being a part of a Union means that the collective makes the decisions, not the individual. Because of that at least for us we still make substantially more than our non Union counterparts and the RLA protects us in that regard. Imagine being Non Union and living in a "Right To Work" State. So if the collective seeks "Self Help" and you chose to be an individual against the collective you might not enjoy their very long memory of that?

Basically your membership chose it's leaders and those leaders have a path they aim to take. If an individual is not willing to follow that path than maybe they shouldn't be working here in the first place? We were all told it was a Union job when we hired on and we chose to take it and stay with it.

I live in a right to work state and I can clearly see what happens when you don't have a union and its not pretty ...

But from time to time somone on here needs to splash some cold water on the strangely insulted workforce we have ..comparing baggage handlers to pilots ,I mean come on let's be real here ...

 

[700UW]

Right to work has nothing to do with workers under the Railway Labor Act.
 
Get some self-esteem.

 

[cltrat]

I believe he's what people in the horse business call a gelding

 

[mike33]

I believe he's what people in the horse business call a gelding

The company loves people like freedumb!  Problem for them is they chose the wrong mouthpiece.

 

[freedom]

Try talking to your co*workers whom you don't see at the union meetings every week and let me know what THEY think ...

This isn't about you or me ,this will be about what the membership wants and how the membership feels and I bet I've got a better beat on them than all of you .