2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[700UW]

No, you are the one who needs to be educated, you said on here you dont want a raise nor does the membership need one.
 
I educate from here, you are frontline and blind.

 

[robbedagain]

hey freedom  since you can see the airport from that chq as u say   can u see mexico  or Russia too????   

 

[P. REZ]

Let's cut to the chase here. This Company has said, "eff u", we are not going to give anything more than what American has right now. The problem is if you break it down they are giving topped out people what would be close to their inflation raises that they haven't received since 2012 and less for employees not topped out. Through breaking down both surveys your NC has determined several key issues that need to be addressed in which the Company has refused to address. They want us to trust them that all of our concerns will be addressed in JCBA. IMO, this Company needs to address the concerns each of you brought up in the surveys by giving us a fair contract first and then we will be happy to go into JCBA with our Brothers and Sisters at AA. 
 
If everybody sticks together the end result will be a better offer then what the Company is offering now. Section 6 negotiations, which we are currently in, is better than JCBA talks because you can get self help while in section 6. The Company needs to realize that there is no goodwill on our part because there isn't any trust. A fair contract offer will go far in building any trust for JCBA.
 
P. Rez   

 

[WeAAsles]

28L I hope I don't burst your bubble but I certainly am very far from management or being a fake profile. I'm an FSC in MIA coming up on 19 years and have no issue letting people know who I am. I'm also not an official of any Union although I am a TWU member. Just a very involved member who keeps himself as educated about things as possible and maybe has a different perspective on certain things. Hope that doesn't disturb you.

 

[wings396]

Maybe we can ask them to toss us a few shares of stock too....
From what I can tell, it looks like that can lead to a nice payout.

 

[mike33]

Let's cut to the chase here. This Company has said, "eff u", we are not going to give anything more than what American has right now. The problem is if you break it down they are giving topped out people what would be close to their inflation raises that they haven't received since 2012 and less for employees not topped out. Through breaking down both surveys your NC has determined several key issues that need to be addressed in which the Company has refused to address. They want us to trust them that all of our concerns will be addressed in JCBA. IMO, this Company needs to address the concerns each of you brought up in the surveys by giving us a fair contract first and then we will be happy to go into JCBA with our Brothers and Sisters at AA. 
 
If everybody sticks together the end result will be a better offer then what the Company is offering now. Section 6 negotiations, which we are currently in, is better than JCBA talks because you can get self help while in section 6. The Company needs to realize that there is no goodwill on our part because there isn't any trust. A fair contract offer will go far in building any trust for JCBA.
 
P. Rez   

Lets put the shoe on the other foot Rez!
 
  Offer us more than AA and we will see about giving some back in Joint Talks....If they don't trust that? Then how can we trust them here in section 6?

 

[freedom]

No, you are the one who needs to be educated, you said on here you dont want a raise nor does the membership need one.
 
I educate from here, you are frontline and blind.

I would LIKE a raise but I can survive for the time being ...as for the membership they too would also like a raise ,but sadly their too lazy to get off their collective asses SO NO RAISE FOR YOU ! ( that's directed at the general membership)

We can all fill out survey after survey of what we WANT but if the membership isn't willing to put in the work then they should only get what THEY deserve in this contact and that's very little .

And as for striking , that's the FINAL step in the process of raising up the members not the first ....by this time our solidarity should be at a fever pitch and I ain't feeling it ...

 

[WeAAsles]

I thought you guys might prefer this Avatar over the angry looking red guy. That's a picture of our TWU Local 501 where I started my career. I'm a proud member today of TWU Local 568.

 

[mike33]

I would LIKE a raise but I can survive for the time being ...as for the membership they too would also like a raise ,but sadly their too lazy to get off their collective asses SO NO RAISE FOR YOU ! ( that's directed at the general membership)

 

 
                F....... U

 

[28L_or_10R?]

I would LIKE a raise but I can survive for the time being ...as for the membership they too would also like a raise ,but sadly their too lazy to get off their collective asses SO NO RAISE FOR YOU ! ( that's directed at the general membership)

We can all fill out survey after survey of what we WANT but if the membership isn't willing to put in the work then they should only get what THEY deserve in this contact and that's very little .

And as for striking , that's the FINAL step in the process of raising up the members not the first ....by this time our solidarity should be at a fever pitch and I ain't feeling it ...

Freedumb... sit down and relax... and drink a hot cup of Drano.

 

[700UW]

It seems he never read this book:
 

 

[ChockJockey]

Try talking to your co*workers whom you don't see at the union meetings every week and let me know what THEY think ...

 
Did you attend this week's meeting, where the district nominations were being held?

 

[roabilly]

Let's cut to the chase here. This Company has said, "eff u", we are not going to give anything more than what American has right now. The problem is if you break it down they are giving topped out people what would be close to their inflation raises that they haven't received since 2012 and less for employees not topped out. Through breaking down both surveys your NC has determined several key issues that need to be addressed in which the Company has refused to address. They want us to trust them that all of our concerns will be addressed in JCBA. IMO, this Company needs to address the concerns each of you brought up in the surveys by giving us a fair contract first and then we will be happy to go into JCBA with our Brothers and Sisters at AA. 
 
If everybody sticks together the end result will be a better offer then what the Company is offering now. Section 6 negotiations, which we are currently in, is better than JCBA talks because you can get self help while in section 6. The Company needs to realize that there is no goodwill on our part because there isn't any trust. A fair contract offer will go far in building any trust for JCBA.
 
P. Rez   

Now I see why the Company went to the TWU behind our backs on the AA side with their contract proposal... it was to actually lower the bar for section 6 talks on the IAM US side!
 
That is why they are insistent on progressing to joint talks instead of settling the 6 talks we are in now. The Company knows they can drag joint talks out for at least a couple of years. Essentially, this would keep BOTH groups in BK agreements at least until 2016!
 
My advice to everyone is to insist on the completion of section six negotiations before entertaining any overtures to enter joint talks, and/or consummating SCS!
 
LOCK -N- LOAD!!

 

[700UW]

Union meetings every week?
 
That would be once a month.
 
You are clueless.

 

[mike33]

We can all fill out survey after survey of what we WANT but if the membership isn't willing to put in the work then they should only get what THEY deserve in this contact and that's very little .

And as for striking , that's the FINAL step in the process of raising up the members not the first ....by this time our solidarity should be at a fever pitch and I ain't feeling it ...

You spend all day on here/ and to accomplish what?  I'm curious now!!