2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[700UW]

This is US Airways, not UA.

Go stir the pot over there.

 

[robbedagain]

tim   i cannot imagine that 80 grievances somehow got misplaced  how does that happen?
 
josh  you tell 700 that he needs to post about the airline in that forum  yet you yourself are posting about ual in a usairways forum  wtf gives here    also wt posts dl in every thread you dont correct him.... wtf gives

 

[Tim Nelson]

tim   i cannot imagine that 80 grievances somehow got misplaced  how does that happen?
 
josh  you tell 700 that he needs to post about the airline in that forum  yet you yourself are posting about ual in a usairways forum  wtf gives here    also wt posts dl in every thread you dont correct him.... wtf gives

Yep. Unimaginable.  More to follow about how ridiculous these guys are.  Nobody cares.

 

[ograc]

You are absurd.
I have said that each ticket has the exact same amount of full time representatives, i.e., AGC's. Delaney's ticket has an extra trustee and VP who are US AIRWAYS.  Neither of which is a full time job.  A trustee is someone who signs checks once a month. It's a non representative position.  You also have a VP, Charlie Brown.  The difference between the two tickets, if you separate by logo, is that the ticket I chose to support has a United person running against Charlie Brown.  Yes, I support that candidate, as it is my opinion that even the current US AIRWAYS eboard members didn't make a difference when they endorsed the United contract and couldn't stand up to Delaney.  If you can't stand up to Delaney, then how can you stand up to AH?  So, color me bad for supporting a United guy over CB.  I'll vote for the United candidate 10 out of 10 times against CB because the guy has stones and a few things CB left behind.
 
 Slates don't pick spots......slates pick candidates.  
 
In fact, you told me yourself that you could never vote for the United contract.  What person dislikes the watch but supports the watchmaker?   You probably will push for the entire ticket of Delaney's.  Will you tell your US AIRWAYS members that 90% lost their home nomination, as incumbent officers???  I wish that when CB hands out his slate card in CLT tomorrow that he fully discloses to those US AIRWAYS members who he is deceiving [due to personal gain] that EVERYONE on his ballot from United, save 1, could NOT EVEN WIN THEIR HOME NOMINATION.  In fact, Troy Rivera from SFO finished dead last, along with Sandy Gardner in DEN.  
 
Yet, CB is doing the one thing he said he wouldn't do.  He is playing politics with the lives of our members by pushing deadbeat incumbents who CAN"T WIN AT HOME.  Why?  Because "That's CB"s Team".  Never mind that the United folks are voting against them because of all the lies.     
 
CLT should realize when Joe Bartz comes to the local tomorrow that he finished second to last in voting in ORD.  NOT ONE STOREKEEPER showed up for him, yet CB wants US AIRWAYS to show up for Joe Bartz.  Imagine that, not ONE STOREKEEPER in ORD showed up for Bartz but CB wants US AIRWAYS to.  Puzzling? Not hardly.  Puhleeeeassseeeeee PJ don't get me started on all the deadweight that YOU want just because MF tells you.  I bet you even fill out all the absentees for MF come June and get another free pizza and suds?
 
Did you know that the current AGC's lost 80 grievances in PHL?  I mean, the grievances were misplaced completely.  They were the 80 grievances that FO said were a 'slam dunk' and were suppose to be fasttracked but the grievances disappeared, probably because they were misplaced.  They called the company and the company didn't have them.  C'mon PJ, don't get me started

Tim,
I don't know about the Trustee position; but an elected VP can be assigned AGC responsibilities for a station. I have witnessed this first hand. Our originally assigned AGC was FO. A year or two into his elected term some of his original station AGC assignments were reassigned to an originally elected US VP at Large. My station being one of them. Not sure if this would be considered full time representation, however, the District representation within the station, with this reassignment, improved dramatically over what we were experiencing.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim,
I don't know about the Trustee position; but an elected VP can be assigned AGC responsibilities for a station. I have witnessed this first hand. Our originally assigned AGC was FO. A year or two into his elected term some of his original station AGC assignments were reassigned to an originally elected US VP at Large. My station being one of them. Not sure if this would be considered full time representation, however, the District representation within the station, with this reassignment, improved dramatically over what we were experiencing.

While it is not a full time position, you are absolutely right in that its role can expand.

 

[IAM Informer]

HEY DOOSH
CUMUNICATER
THIS--  EFF U!
 
BLUTO

Must be election time again DL must be sitting in his hotel room in SFO juicing his expense report and per diem by sitting on the internet insulting the members that pay his salary.
He DL how about making yourself useful and post all the nomination cities that the incumbents have already received. Shouldn't take you to long I believe the list is pretty short

 

[IAM Informer]

S***! 8 YRS O
KOLLEGE DWN
THE FREAKIN
DRAIN!
 
LOCK AN LOD!
 
DAVE

Oops starting to slip up DL

 

[rockit2]

Must be election time again DL must be sitting in his hotel room in SFO juicing his expense report and per diem by sitting on the internet insulting the members that pay his salary.
He DL how about making yourself useful and post all the nomination cities that the incumbents have already received. Shouldn't take you to long I believe the list is pretty short

DL is ineffective at his position, the only thing I've heard out of him is to not shop at Walmart. Easy to say when your living on the membership's dues, time for dave to head back to the ramp for a dose of reality.

 

[pjirish317]

Tim,
 
So by your logic, the ticket you are running on, you say it does not put US members at a disadvantage by not having 5 US people. Correct me if I am wrong here, but on the E-Board, aren't all votes equal? So you are basically asking US to support an even larger number of UA/CO people when we are already out numbered? And can you please tell me what the candidate out of PHL has done? Has he even wrote a grievance? Held any hearing at any level? We would like to know.

 

[ograc]

I the minds of the Nelson followers... the UA puzzle piece has to be hammered into the US picture-- thus, they are basically driving a square peg into a round hole! This is integral to their political argument that the entire IAM Leadership is inept... and they... and ONLY they... can correct it.
 
If US were UA-- wouldn't we already voting on sub-par agreement instead of making preparations to strike?

At this point in the US negotiations we do seem to be going a different direction. One of resolve. One of a willingness to fight to regain some of what has been taken in former BK contracts. It's puzzling though, why this position was not taken by the NC and Distrtict on the UA contract negotiations. Maybe the reasoning was with so many new sCO below wing members voting they would not have a strong enough strike vote or the solidarity to sustain a strike. Regardless... we at US, both at DL 141 Fleet and DL 142 MTC. and Related, seem to be exerxising the options afforded under the RLA concerning collective bargaining. IMPASSE!

 

[roabilly]

At this point in the US negotiations we do seem to be going a different direction. One of resolve. One of a willingness to fight to regain some of what has been taken in former BK contracts. It's puzzling though, why this position was not taken by the NC and Distrtict on the UA contract negotiations. Maybe the reasoning was with so many new sCO below wing members voting they would not have a strong enough strike vote or the solidarity to sustain a strike. Regardless... we at US, both at DL 141 Fleet and DL 142 MTC. and Related, seem to be exerxising the options afforded under the RLA concerning collective bargaining. IMPASSE!

You are correct Cargo...
 
I don’t think anyone could argue that the IAM leadership, and the N/C as a whole are anyway weak on the US side! I find it puzzling that the entire argument for a leadership change is hinged on what supposedly happened with United.
 
Ironically, the answer is supposed to be to ADD more United folks to the leadership!

 

[john john]

No it was a Federal Judge in PIT.
 
Dispatchers look like they dont have the language:
 
 
uote
D. LOCK OUTS / STRIKES

It is agreed that the Company will not lock out any Employees, and the Union or its members will not authorize or take part in any strike, sympathy strike, sit-down, slowdown, walkout, curtailment of work, or picketing until the procedures for settling disputes as provided by the RLA have been exhausted

So the TWU represented dispatchers at US will not horror an IAM soon to be TWU/IAM alliance strike? Sure would be nice to have them in your corner

 

[700UW]

So the TWU represented dispatchers at US will not horror an IAM soon to be TWU/IAM alliance strike? Sure would be nice to have them in your corner

I dont see any language in their CBA to let them honor it.
 
And there would be a picket line at OCC as MOC are IAM.
 
And John John, your CBA has the language to honor a picket line, will you and your brothers and sisters?

 

[Tim Nelson]

I dont see any language in their CBA to let them honor it.
 
And there would be a picket line at OCC as MOC are IAM.
 
And John John, your CBA has the language to honor a picket line, will you and your brothers and sisters?

good to know that cwa can honor our picket line

 

[700UW]

Tim,
 
The AFA, CWA/IBT, and all three IAM CBAs have the honor the picket line language in their respective CBAs.
 
And it has been arbitrated and won by the AFA.