2014 Pilot Discussion

[Pi brat]

 
So, I guess that's not me in the picture then you idiot!  LOL
 
 
Just get off the phone with daddy?  Bitchin' about the NIc again???  
 
Oh god, this is great.  
Remember Tony, be a good union pilot!

Oh, sweetie, did I sting you? If you are who I was told you are, that is kind of a likeness.
 
How come you can't live up to your agreements?

 

[prechilill]

Oh, sweetie, did I sting you? If you are who I was told you are, that is kind of a likeness.
 
How come you can't live up to your agreements?

 
We have.  You will get the Nicolau, promise.  

 

[dca319]

What is "this"? The whole SLI?

Affirm. And give me to the end of fall. Work for you?

 

[Pi brat]

USAPA? What's that?

It's not April yet.

 

[Pi brat]

Affirm. And give me to the end of fall. Work for you?

Sure, winter solstice. Heck, you have to be closer than res or pre.

 

[GorgeousGeorge]

What is "this"? The whole SLI?

What is "this"? The whole SLI?

I think they forget MB states if there is a dispute in seniority, it is remaned to arbitration in accordance with section 13 of the A-M LPP's. Of course your MOU states that can't happen until you have a JCBA and the law says if seniority isn't resolved after 20 days an arbitrator is struck and the dispute is submitted to the arbitrator which will render a decision 90 days thereafter. Hmmm........It won't be over by the fall.

 

[EastUS1]

Bean,
 
I agree with you that the APA will try and put their pilots interests first and I don't find this unexpected when you think that it was the APA that was 100% responsible for the MB legislation. I was expecting that they would do anything to circumvent MB and it also doesn't surprise me that the company would try to help them do just that. Bottom line is that if they are succesful in circumventing MB it won't go well for any former USAirways pilot east or west. USAPA going away will make many happy but it sort of looks like that "pyricc" (sp) victory that has been bandied about on this forum.
 
All the best,
 
Bob

 
Fully agreed with here Bob, most especially with your observation of the bottom line being "that if they are succesful in circumventing MB it won't go well for any former USAirways pilot east or west." This is shaping up to become an interesting test of the true value of the MB legislation and it's intent.

 

[Pi brat]

I think they forget MB states if there is a dispute in seniority, it is remaned to arbitration in accordance with section 13 of the A-M LPP's. Of course your MOU states that can't happen until you have a JCBA and the law says if seniority isn't resolved after 20 days an arbitrator is struck and the dispute is submitted to the arbitrator which will render a decision 90 days thereafter. Hmmm........It won't be over by the fall.

I'm trying to let them have their day-while making notes. They haven't had many out west for a long time.

 

[dca319]

I think they forget MB states if there is a dispute in seniority, it is remaned to arbitration in accordance with section 13 of the A-M LPP's. Of course your MOU states that can't happen until you have a JCBA and the law says if seniority isn't resolved after 20 days an arbitrator is struck and the dispute is submitted to the arbitrator which will render a decision 90 days thereafter. Hmmm........It won't be over by the fall.

First, APA can change whatever they want. Second, this is going to move so fast your heads will spin. Third, USAPA will be gone.

 

[prechilill]

I'm trying to let them have their day-while making notes. They haven't had many out west for a long time.

 
USAPA is about dead, there isn't much left at this point to argue about.   The west has prevailed.
 
Have a NICe afternoon, Tony.  Say hi to dad!

 

[dca319]

I'm trying to let them have their day-while making notes. They haven't had many out west for a long time.

Don't think it's up to you Tone. APA handed their day to them.

 

[Pi brat]

 
USAPA is about dead, there isn't much left at this point to argue about.   The west has prevailed.
 
Have a NICe afternoon, Tony.  Say hi to dad!

The west has prevailed? Huh. So you will be participating in the June or July bid?
 
Will tell him hi for ya.

 

[prechilill]

How long before a DEC '85 hire can hold A330 Captain?  Thoughts?

 

[GorgeousGeorge]

First, APA can change whatever they want. Second, this is going to move so fast your heads will spin. Third, USAPA will be gone.

They can't change the law and there is a legal reason they wanted the ability to modify the protocol agreement as a single CBA because none exists in the MOU. USAPA will be around in some form to exert MB rights or sue to have the law enforced. At which point your management will say, oh well no JCBA until the litigation is resolved so whatever they are saving by not having it completed which is likely a couple hundred million annually will more that pay off draging it out for years. They have already showed how they will throw the litigation card to the NMB and say we can't negoitate an agreement till this is all resolved.

 

[Pi brat]

Don't think it's up to you Tone. APA handed their day to them.

I think you're right junior. It's all over. Nic to be implemented soon, billions in damages to be paid and bump flush coming. Don't drink too much tonight.