2014 Pilot Discussion

[traderjake]

Like this forum is?

 

[traderjake]

 
Rumor from FAA inspector on JS is that American will move it LAX domestic pilot base to PHX. 

 

[Pi brat]

Like this forum is?

Worse. Over there you only have, what, one or two opposing views? Something gets thrown out and it becomes fact. Ask me how I know.

 

[nevergiveup]

 

 
Rumor from FAA inspector is the American will move it LAX domestic pilot base to PHX. 

 

HNL pilot base!

 

[Piedmont1984]

Worse. Over there you only have, what, one or two opposing views? Something gets thrown out and it becomes fact. Ask me how I know.

How do you know ? 🙂

 

[traderjake]

Worse. Over there you only have, what, one or two opposing views? Something gets thrown out and it becomes fact. Ask me how I know.

 
You have a lot more primary documents posted there than here.
 
Of course they don't have luvthe9 or EastUS1 to keep them honest.
 
Didn't you leave PA for the same reason?

 

[Phoenix]

Perhaps Marty will return all of the money he collected.

I'm thinking of starting an LLC to sue Marty to help the gullible pilots recover their squandered donations... He has been such a good business model, and the victims haven't figured out the gig... No need to fix what ain't broke. 😀

 

[Pi brat]

How do you know ? 🙂

Why thank you '84.
 
I had a west friend talk me in to signing up and even being an moderator. It was ok....until AOL lost it's appeal in SFO. The the gloves came off and the BS came out. Holmes came up with this idea that all US pilots moved up in relative % as they would have on their respective seniority lists. I got the information from USAPA to show them it wasn't true. Not luck, even with the facts in their face, they stuck with that theory. Then the whole brochure series started. Enough for me.

 

[Pi brat]

 
You have a lot more primary documents posted there than here.
 
Of course they don't have luvthe9 or EastUS1 to keep them honest.
 
Didn't you leave PA for the same reason?

No. One of the main reason I left PA was a certain pilot from BOS that voted for USAPA, but was like a broken record. That and, well you know a certain persons lengthy updates and his record. 

 

[end_of_alpa]

When APA replaces USAPA will USAPA return all dues money or not?
 
If not how much will it keep?
 
Will that money be placed in escrow with APA for the East MC?
 
Does USAPA's C&BLs trump case law? 

DID YOU READ THIS CASE?
 

"Here, however, IFFA made no provision for the disposal of union funds in the event its only members elected a new bargaining representative. In the absence of such a provision, principles of equity dictate that a union should not retain funds that reflect the dues of its only members and use them in a way that does not advance those members' interests. We therefore conclude that IFFA has a fiduciary duty to preserve union funds that reflect the dues paid by the TWA flight attendants and to use them only to advance the interests of the flight attendants."
 

You really CAN"T read, can you Dan.  USAPA HAS PROVISIONS FOR DISPOSAL OF UNION FUNDS.  Read the Constitution and Bylaws!
 
 

SECTION 3. DURATION AND/OR DISSOLUTION
A. The duration of USAPA shall be perpetual, or until dissolved as provided for in this Constitution and Bylaws. Subject to the deferral provisions of paragraphs B. and C. of this section, in the event of dissolution of the Association, the officers of USAPA shall act as agents for the membership and dispose of all of the physical assets of the Association by suitable means. All assets shall be liquidated and, less any indebtedness, shall then be prorated to the active members in good standing of USAPA as of the time of such dissolution in proportion to the monies paid by each such member in the twelve (12) months immediately preceding dissolution.
B. Dissolution of the Association may be affected through a representation vote conducted by the National Mediation Board (NMB) in accordance with the Railway Labor Act (RLA) that results in the Association’s certification being extinguished or pursuant to a two-thirds vote of the Board of Pilot Representatives subsequently ratified in accordance with Article XI, Paragraph D. of this Constitution and Bylaws. In either case, the commencement of dissolution is subject to the deferral provisions of C. of this section.
C. Within three (3) business days of either the NMB decision or membership vote triggering dissolution (hereinafter, the “commencement date”), the National Officers shall make a determination as to whether existing circumstances present, or may present in the future, the need for collective legal action on behalf of the pilot group, including, but not limited to, representation in seniority integration proceedings. In the event the majority of the National Officers determine that such a need exists, the dissolution commencement date will be deferred until, in the judgment of a majority of the National Officers, the need for collective legal representation no longer exists. If, in the judgment of a majority of the National Officers, available funds exceed the expected costs of collective legal representation, the excess monies may be distributed in accordance with paragraph A of this section. The President shall break any tie votes among the National Officers.
D. Notwithstanding any other provision in the Constitution and Bylaws, the full operating authority of USAPA shall reside with the National Officers as of the dissolution commencement date indicated in Paragraph A of this section. The President or the Acting President shall appoint an individual who was an active member as of the commencement date to fill any vacancies arising among the National Officers after the commencement date.
 

Here Dan..... FOR YOUR REVIEW.  NOT THE SAME FACT PATTERN DUMBA$$.

 

[traderjake]

Somebody is a little cranky today.

 

[Hawkhunter]

No Dan, your just an asshole

 

[traderjake]

Sound like the realization that you'll never see DOH is getting to some people.   

 

[end_of_alpa]

 
DID YOU READ THIS CASE?
 
You really CAN"T read, can you Dan.  USAPA HAS PROVISIONS FOR DISPOSAL OF UNION FUNDS.  Read the Constitution and Bylaws!
 
 

Here Dan..... FOR YOUR REVIEW.  NOT THE SAME FACT PATTERN DUMBA$$.

 

Footnote:
 

6. We note that at oral argument IAM stated that it would be willing to conduct a referendum among its members who were also members of IFFA before March 6, 1997. Such a referendum would allow the union members to decide whether IAM would hold IFFA funds in trust for the TWA flight attendants or whether those flight attendants would receive their pro rata share of those funds.
 

 

[EastUS1]

Sound like the realization that you'll never see DOH is getting to some people.   

 
Hardly. What's actually obvious here is that you're just a hapless village idiot/court jester, who'd desperately try to find any way you can even perversely imagine to turn against and back-stab your own coworkers of many years. How truly pathetic is that?