2014 Pilot Discussion

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IMHO, USAPA's filing with the NMB is arguing that "Section 13 of the Allegheny-Mohawk LPPs permits the union to disregard our contract's language. Section 13 establishes a dispute resolution procedure, including for Section 3 seniority integration disputes, which provides under its subsection 13(a) that if the parties have not settled the dispute within 20 days of it arising, any party may request from the National Mediation Board (“NMB”) a list of seven potential arbitrators from which the parties will then alternately strike names until a single arbitrator remains who will hear and resolve the dispute."[/size]However, this action may violate the RLA, contract law (the pilot's contract) and specifically the MOU, paragraph 20. [/size]MOU, paragraph 20 states, "Except as expressly provided otherwise in this Memorandum, any dispute over the interpretation or application of this Memorandum shall be resolved in accordance with this provision. Any such dispute shall be arbitrated on an expedited basis directly before a specially-created one-person System Board of Adjustment consisting of arbitrator Richard Bloch or Ira Jaffe, whoever shall be available to hear the dispute earliest. If Arbitrator Bloch or Jaffe declines to serve in this capacity or is not available to resolve the dispute, another neutral arbitrator shall be selected. The dispute shall be heard no later than thirty (30) days following the submission to the System Board (subject to the availability of the arbitrator), and shall be decided no later than thirty (30) days following the first day of the hearing, unless otherwise agreed to in writing."[/size]In addition to AAG objecting to USAPA's NMB filing, the Company and APA filed a lawsuit and grievance against USAPA under Paragraph 20 of the MOU, "claiming that USAPA violated MOU paragraph 10 by invoking the McCaskill-Bond Section 13(a) process by requesting a list of seven potential arbitrators from the NMB on February 20, 2014. APA and the Carriers requested as part of the remedy in their grievance that USAPA be ordered by the arbitrator to revoke its February 20, 2014 request to the NMB under Section 13(a) of the Allegheny-Mohawk LPPs."[/size]It seems to me USAPA is asking the NMB to issue a ruling to set aside a part of the pilot's contract, which AAG and APA believe is bad-faith. What are the odds of success and if USAPA loses this request what happens to US Airways' pilots and the ISL proceedings post SCC without a Protocol Agreement?[/size]The NMB request and M-B lawsuit seems very, very risky to me. If either of these go APA and AAG's way without a Protocol Agreement prior to SCC US Airways' pilots could be in deep, deep trouble. In fact, the trouble could be worse than the Nicolau Award and result in a TWA-AA type of ISL.[/size]

Don't tell me you've failed a drug test. Give it a rest.

 

[EastUS1]

"Charlotte Gold"... That right there is an omen for Martay, Fergay, and Koontay.

 
LOL...Given the clinically insane rules of engagement for seniority establishment in current times...well...none can afford to dismiss omens and mystical portents anymore. 😉 One has to admit they make every bit as much "logical" sense as "career expectations" or "snapshots in time" after all.

 

[traderjake]

And why isn't Nicolau included on the list of seven?

 
Is that the same Kasher as in "Kasher will pay"?
 
You might want to strike  him off the list, as well as anyone who did the United Continental, Delta Nothwest, or Frontier Republic arbitrations.  

 

[Phoenix]

Is that the same Kasher as in "Kasher will pay"?
 
You might want to strike  him off the list, as well as anyone who did the United Continental, Delta Nothwest, or Frontier Republic arbitrations.

"Charlotte Gold"

Regardless of what happens, that name will grate against you and Chip the rest of your days. 😀

 

[traderjake]

 

"Charlotte Gold"

Regardless of what happens, that name will grate against you and Chip the rest of your days. 😀

 
You got me pegged all wrong.
 
I love the name Charlotte. :wub:

 

[Phoenix]

A disgruntled woman wearing a patriotic tie, and missing a shoe, was spotted in PHX. It seems Hillary was mistaken as being Judge Silver...

LAS VEGAS (AP) — A Phoenix woman accused of throwing a shoe some 60 feet toward Hillary Rodham Clinton appeared aware during questioning by U.S. Secret Service agents of the allegation against her, authorities said Friday.

 

[Phoenix]

You got me pegged all wrong.
 
I love the name Charlotte. :wub:

That's good!

You'll be singing "It's our Charlotte Gold" to the tune of "It's a small world", and you won't be able to get it out of your head... It's such a catchy tune!! .. but at least you will finally be able to displace your visions of mechanical dolls echoing their refrain. Alas..Charlotte Gold may be a bitter sweet reprieve for those that failed to successfully recall their thorns of the flesh. 🙂

 

[traderjake]

My vote goes to Kasher because luvthe9 already knows how he's going to rule and I don't want to wait.

 

[nevergiveup]

 
That is the answer.
 
Too stupid to figure it out?

I guessed right!

 

[algflyr]

Kasher is done... no infamy for him.. Lol. Is he still sick??

 

[snapthis]

A disgruntled woman wearing a patriotic tie, and missing a shoe, was spotted in PHX. It seems Hillary was mistaken as being Judge Silver...LAS VEGAS (AP) A Phoenix woman accused of throwing a shoe some 60 feet toward Hillary Rodham Clinton appeared aware during questioning by U.S. Secret Service agents of the allegation against her, authorities said Friday.

She's probably headed to the border. It's open. 🙂View attachment 10145

 

[Phoenix]

My vote goes to Kasher because luvthe9 already knows how he's going to rule and I don't want to wait.

"It's Our Char-lotte Gold, after all. It's our Char-lotte Gold after all. It's our Char, Char-lotte Gold"


Sing it. Over and over.

 

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It's interesting that Rainey, the chief of staff, chose not to respond. A bit cryptic.

It looks like APA and AAL are LOSING CONTROL OF THE PROCESS!  USAPA is dead all right!
 
Lawsuit in DCA continues unabated.
 
How's that working out for YOUR crystal ball Chip???

 

[nycbusdriver]

 
IMO the E190 Captain positions should pay more and be senior to the WB F/O positions.  

 
I wholehertedly agree with that.
 
How embarrassing that the largest airline in the world has captain slots unclaimed!  Truly a tribute to Parker's "outstanding" leadership and vision.

 

[nycbusdriver]

 
 I'm not sure I would bid it unless it paid considerably more.  

 
You are far from alone in that stance.  However, if E190 captain paid even $3/hr more than A330 F/O, there would be no unbid E190 captain slots, and there would be no "probationary period" captain awards.